SpaceX Tuesday...
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p1stonhead said:
I am staggered that every inch of the rocket isnt covered by ultra high def cameras already to be honest.
What you can see with your eyes is not always that useful though. You'd be wanting all sorts of other sensors too anyway. I can't see static buildup, or a pressure change, until it has a physical impact on other things.Flooble said:
p1stonhead said:
I am staggered that every inch of the rocket isnt covered by ultra high def cameras already to be honest.
What you can see with your eyes is not always that useful though. You'd be wanting all sorts of other sensors too anyway. I can't see static buildup, or a pressure change, until it has a physical impact on other things.given it was a static fire test and miles from anywhere 3rd party footage must be quite limited?
And as such being 'routine' probably isnt covered as well by spacex themselves.
Highspeed cameras are not cheap and scattering them everywhere would be a bit of a mission - remember they are likely to get damaged/toasted during this too..
And as such being 'routine' probably isnt covered as well by spacex themselves.
Highspeed cameras are not cheap and scattering them everywhere would be a bit of a mission - remember they are likely to get damaged/toasted during this too..
RobDickinson said:
given it was a static fire test and miles from anywhere 3rd party footage must be quite limited?
And as such being 'routine' probably isnt covered as well by spacex themselves.
Highspeed cameras are not cheap and scattering them everywhere would be a bit of a mission - remember they are likely to get damaged/toasted during this too..
You're right I forgot for a minute that this didnt happen during a launch!And as such being 'routine' probably isnt covered as well by spacex themselves.
Highspeed cameras are not cheap and scattering them everywhere would be a bit of a mission - remember they are likely to get damaged/toasted during this too..
2fast748 said:
Interesting, though since when has 11 days before been "on the eve of" 
MartG said:
2fast748 said:
Interesting, though since when has 11 days before been "on the eve of" 
ks spouted from the vast majority of CEOs these days.NASA has published innumerable ( and expensive ! ) Mars mission 'studies' since the 1960s, but never actually got anywhere, and no-one is bothered
SpaceX publish some information about their planned Mars mission, which on past performance by the company actually stands a chance of happening, and a lot of people seem very quick to criticise - I've seen a lot of very negative comments online about SpaceX's Mars plans
SpaceX publish some information about their planned Mars mission, which on past performance by the company actually stands a chance of happening, and a lot of people seem very quick to criticise - I've seen a lot of very negative comments online about SpaceX's Mars plans
Apparently it is looking like a failure in the 2nd stage helium pressurisation system caused the loss of the Falcon 9
http://www.spacex.com/news/2016/09/01/anomaly-upda...
http://www.spacex.com/news/2016/09/01/anomaly-upda...
As I understand it, the helium tank is located inside the oxygen tank. If it loses integrity for whatever reason, the pressure of expanding helium will in turn burst the oxygen tank, with obvious consequences.
Edit to add: Yes, they are located in the oxygen tanks and are running at around 5,500 psi (380 bar). So no wonder they go off like a bomb if they let go. They're called a "composite overwrapped pressure vessel" (COPV) - basically a non-structural liner wrapped in carbon fibre.
Here's a couple of smaller ones undergoing destructive tests:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UdVnO10J3U
At the time of the Falcon 9 explosion, both liquid oxygen and helium were still being loaded into the upper stage.
Edit to add: Yes, they are located in the oxygen tanks and are running at around 5,500 psi (380 bar). So no wonder they go off like a bomb if they let go. They're called a "composite overwrapped pressure vessel" (COPV) - basically a non-structural liner wrapped in carbon fibre.
Here's a couple of smaller ones undergoing destructive tests:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5UdVnO10J3U
At the time of the Falcon 9 explosion, both liquid oxygen and helium were still being loaded into the upper stage.
Edited by Beati Dogu on Saturday 24th September 02:51
Flooble said:
So last time it was a strut holding the helium tank, this time it's the tank itself?
Somewhat simplistic. .http://www.spacex.com/news/2015/07/20/crs-7-invest...
http://www.spacex.com/news/2016/09/01/anomaly-upda...
https://www.reddit.com/r/spacex/comments/50rr9v
The Muskmeister is going to talk about SpaceX's Mars plans at the International Astronautical Congress in Guadalajara, Mexico on Tuesday.
Starts at 7.30 pm UK time.
Should be rather interesting; "SpaceX" is short for "Space Exploration Technologies Corporation" after all.
http://SpaceX.com/Mars
Starts at 7.30 pm UK time.
Should be rather interesting; "SpaceX" is short for "Space Exploration Technologies Corporation" after all.
http://SpaceX.com/Mars
Slight delay - should start any moment now.
This video has appeared early - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA
This video has appeared early - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA
Edited by ninja-lewis on Tuesday 27th September 19:49
Looks like a scene from "Things to Come", the 1936 adaption of HG Wells' The Shape of Things to Come.
I think Musk was inspired by Raymond Massey's character near the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqH1jyiHCyo
I think Musk was inspired by Raymond Massey's character near the end.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqH1jyiHCyo
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