SpaceX Tuesday...
Discussion
Beati Dogu said:
Zuckerberg is a dick. If he really wants to make life better for humanity he should shut down Facebook. 
But it's certainly exiting times again in terms of rocketry. Definite kudos to Musk & Bezos for that.
Say what you want about Zuckerberg (and don't get me wrong, I don't idolise him), but you have to admire his pledge to fund $2.5 billion in medical research out of his own pocket. But it's certainly exiting times again in terms of rocketry. Definite kudos to Musk & Bezos for that.
Back to Mars though: an interesting thought just sprung to mind. Who takes ownership of this colony? American colonies were British initially, and then other nations jumped on the bandwagon at which point those respective colonies were under their ownership/government. Will the Mars colony be a SpaceX IP, or will it be American because that is where SpaceX's tax office is? Or will it secede and become independent?
I think we can agree it won't be shared by the denizens of Earth. Humanity has a big problem with sharing and we can't abide by the thought of non-ownership. Someone has to own it, right?
Alias218 said:
Beati Dogu said:
Zuckerberg is a dick. If he really wants to make life better for humanity he should shut down Facebook.
But it's certainly exiting times again in terms of rocketry. Definite kudos to Musk & Bezos for that.
Say what you want about Zuckerberg (and don't get me wrong, I don't idolise him), but you have to admire his pledge to fund $2.5 billion in medical research out of his own pocket. But it's certainly exiting times again in terms of rocketry. Definite kudos to Musk & Bezos for that.
Back to Mars though: an interesting thought just sprung to mind. Who takes ownership of this colony? American colonies were British initially, and then other nations jumped on the bandwagon at which point those respective colonies were under their ownership/government. Will the Mars colony be a SpaceX IP, or will it be American because that is where SpaceX's tax office is? Or will it secede and become independent?
I think we can agree it won't be shared by the denizens of Earth. Humanity has a big problem with sharing and we can't abide by the thought of non-ownership. Someone has to own it, right?
http://www.gatesfoundation.org/
Alias218 said:
I think we can agree it won't be shared by the denizens of Earth. Humanity has a big problem with sharing and we can't abide by the thought of non-ownership. Someone has to own it, right?
Anarcho-cynicalist commune, obvs; everybody and nobody would own any of it, even the (lovely) mud. 
hidetheelephants said:
Alias218 said:
I think we can agree it won't be shared by the denizens of Earth. Humanity has a big problem with sharing and we can't abide by the thought of non-ownership. Someone has to own it, right?
Anarcho-cynicalist commune, obvs; everybody and nobody would own any of it, even the (lovely) mud. Moon Treaty
Edited by SystemParanoia on Friday 30th September 22:28
Einion Yrth said:
hidetheelephants said:
Anarcho-cynicalist commune, obvs; everybody and nobody would own any of it, even the (lovely) mud.
Syndicalist? or am I due a parrot?Flooble said:
Agree completely - the question for me is how a Martian expedition-colony could become self-sustaining. Colonies on earth generally survived because people were able to live off the land and scratch out a living even if they were literally dumped on the shore by a boat.
The cost of running the Martian expedition up to the point where it becomes self-sustaining (relying on Martian resources) is far more than SpaceX could manage to siphon from their launch business and the article seems to imply that there is some sort of "plan" or at least thinking that people will go to Mars in the same way they went to, e.g. California.
I found it interesting that the economic foundations could be so vague.
So the Dangers of Radiation have been overcome, and weightlessness, then once on Mars only 1/3rd of the Gravity here on Earth. Trapped in a building never able to go outside without a space suit, no countryside, no Sea......Imagine the isolation. Sounds like a prison rather than Nirvana. The cost of running the Martian expedition up to the point where it becomes self-sustaining (relying on Martian resources) is far more than SpaceX could manage to siphon from their launch business and the article seems to imply that there is some sort of "plan" or at least thinking that people will go to Mars in the same way they went to, e.g. California.
I found it interesting that the economic foundations could be so vague.
Exploring Mars is one thing randomly colonising with a million humans I would suggest is fantasy.......Good Marketing spin though
RobDickinson said:
p1stonhead said:
Tin foil hat time but just how bats
t mental am I on a scale of 1-10 that one of my thoughts were 'perhaps someone shot it with a rifle'?
Not a chance, no way to get anywhere close enough to even try t mental am I on a scale of 1-10 that one of my thoughts were 'perhaps someone shot it with a rifle'?https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/im...
Edited by p1stonhead on Sunday 2nd October 19:05
Beati Dogu said:
^ Nice one. Do you have an Eagle Transporter from "Space: 1999"?
I always thought that was a very practical looking vehicle.
This is the place for that I always thought that was a very practical looking vehicle.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/space1999propsands...p1stonhead said:
Interesting but I'm sure they are checking a lot out and tbh it doesnt take a lot to make a rocket go bang still doubt its ULA sabotage..!Gassing Station | Science! | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff