SpaceX Tuesday...
Discussion
durbster said:
I dunno. Our Moon is a bit s
t really isn't it. When you look at the other moons in the solar system, ours is one of the dullest.
Even Pluto is vastly more interesting and considering how far it is from the sun, it has no right to be be anything other than a lump of cold, dead rock.
The moon is totes amazeballs; it's still vibrating from a comet strike 800 years ago and is full of wacky volcanic stuff. Not much to look at granted but it is conveniently located for the space equivalent of a trip around the lighthouse. It also has He3, which almost certainly will not be mined and brought back to earth.t really isn't it. When you look at the other moons in the solar system, ours is one of the dullest. Even Pluto is vastly more interesting and considering how far it is from the sun, it has no right to be be anything other than a lump of cold, dead rock.
hidetheelephants said:
The moon is totes amazeballs; it's still vibrating from a comet strike 800 years ago and is full of wacky volcanic stuff. Not much to look at granted but it is conveniently located for the space equivalent of a trip around the lighthouse. It also has He3, which almost certainly will not be mined and brought back to earth.
And water which can be converted to rocket fuel ( H2 and O2 ) and fired into orbit to refuel spacecraft a lot easier than lifting fuel from Earthqube_TA said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Eric Mc said:
We could see humans walking on the surface of the moon within ten years if we put our mind to it.
It took less than 10 years in the 1960s starting almost from scratch.p1stonhead said:
Eric Mc said:
AshVX220 said:
I think you'll see people on Mars Eric, let alone the moon, if Musk gets his way.
Would be great to see in my life.It will be like living in a 2* hotel FFS just how 'great' is that. Even if the imaginary scenario of creating an atmosphere was real just how many centuries would it take before you could go outside.
Mind you if your a person who likes cruises it may suit.........but it would all just be horrendously worse
MartG said:
Toaster said:
Cold said:
The moon. Pishh. 
How cool 
Toaster said:
p1stonhead said:
Eric Mc said:
AshVX220 said:
I think you'll see people on Mars Eric, let alone the moon, if Musk gets his way.
Would be great to see in my life.It will be like living in a 2* hotel FFS just how 'great' is that. Even if the imaginary scenario of creating an atmosphere was real just how many centuries would it take before you could go outside.
Mind you if your a person who likes cruises it may suit.........but it would all just be horrendously worse
p1stonhead said:
Toaster said:
p1stonhead said:
Eric Mc said:
AshVX220 said:
I think you'll see people on Mars Eric, let alone the moon, if Musk gets his way.
Would be great to see in my life.It will be like living in a 2* hotel FFS just how 'great' is that. Even if the imaginary scenario of creating an atmosphere was real just how many centuries would it take before you could go outside.
Mind you if your a person who likes cruises it may suit.........but it would all just be horrendously worse
you should see me at the office party. Dont mean to burst you bubble but how else are you going to live on Mars? skip skip skipping along the red sands and stopping for lunch on a nearby red rock. or is the reality you will live in a pod a little like a Oil Rig and you can only go out in a space suit. Never being able to visit earth......some dream, more like a Martian Nightmare. I will stay here thank you.Eric Mc said:
Ignore him - I do.
Clearly you don't so Eric I did say I was not going to reply directly to your comments so stop your niggly comments regarding me or I may just start commenting on your posts again. So be friendly and positive.....my views are as valid as yours you do not have to agree.Toaster said:
p1stonhead said:
Toaster said:
p1stonhead said:
Eric Mc said:
AshVX220 said:
I think you'll see people on Mars Eric, let alone the moon, if Musk gets his way.
Would be great to see in my life.It will be like living in a 2* hotel FFS just how 'great' is that. Even if the imaginary scenario of creating an atmosphere was real just how many centuries would it take before you could go outside.
Mind you if your a person who likes cruises it may suit.........but it would all just be horrendously worse
you should see me at the office party. Dont mean to burst you bubble but how else are you going to live on Mars? skip skip skipping along the red sands and stopping for lunch on a nearby red rock. or is the reality you will live in a pod a little like a Oil Rig and you can only go out in a space suit. Never being able to visit earth......some dream, more like a Martian Nightmare. I will stay here thank you. How can you be this pessimistic about such an amazing achievement.
p1stonhead said:
I wasn't really thinking about the practicalities more the feat itself.
How can you be this pessimistic about such an amazing achievement.
How can you be this pessimistic about such an amazing achievement.
I agree the feat itself will be a real acheivement but the notion of colonisation would bring huge issues, benefits of Exploration and Research would be huge and I am not pessimistic about that
But what about the poor sods who think it would be great to colonise Mars would have a harder harsher time physiologically and psychologically than we could understand. If you have ever stayed at a convention in Vegas for a few days the relief in stepping out to fresh air is such a relief. But f your a martian colonist you would never ever feel the wind/rain/snow or other experiences we all benefit from for mental and physical well being. So am I a pessimist probably not more of a realist.
But each to there own I guess
Toaster said:
p1stonhead said:
I wasn't really thinking about the practicalities more the feat itself.
How can you be this pessimistic about such an amazing achievement.
How can you be this pessimistic about such an amazing achievement.
I agree the feat itself will be a real acheivement but the notion of colonisation would bring huge issues, benefits of Exploration and Research would be huge and I am not pessimistic about that
But what about the poor sods who think it would be great to colonise Mars would have a harder harsher time physiologically and psychologically than we could understand. If you have ever stayed at a convention in Vegas for a few days the relief in stepping out to fresh air is such a relief. But f your a martian colonist you would never ever feel the wind/rain/snow or other experiences we all benefit from for mental and physical well being. So am I a pessimist probably not more of a realist.
But each to there own I guess
) to be one of the first even with all the downsides you mention. ash73 said:
Well, we'll have to live somewhere else eventually. We are the first species on Earth to have the potential to sidestep extinction; might as well get on with it. Imagine a world where everyone was focused on doing that, and trying to be the best that we can be, rather than gawping at soaps on telly and updating facebook. So what if it's difficult, just work harder.
Will we still be allowed to follow Pistonheads?SystemParanoia said:
f
k yeah"We choose to go to the Moon not because they are easy, but because they are hard; because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our energies and skills, because that challenge is one that we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one we intend to win"
How absolutely refreshing
Go SpaceX!!
When I consider how much money businesses spend on Disaster Recovery it amazes me how little we spend on the same capability for the species.
What the Moon and Mars represent is a disaster recovery option. They might not seem very attractive compared to the Earth, but they do have a lot going for them compared to the emptiness of space or extinction.
Both have raw materials that allow you to build shelter, make soil and provide water. They also provide somewhere to 'go for a walk' which combined with a bit of gravity is good for the body and soul.
What the Moon and Mars represent is a disaster recovery option. They might not seem very attractive compared to the Earth, but they do have a lot going for them compared to the emptiness of space or extinction.
Both have raw materials that allow you to build shelter, make soil and provide water. They also provide somewhere to 'go for a walk' which combined with a bit of gravity is good for the body and soul.
As an Interlude the Japanese are getting very funky with fireworks in the last 6 months
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdT12q2KUQA
That sort of shell takes some thinking about when packing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdT12q2KUQA
That sort of shell takes some thinking about when packing
Toaster said:
Totally agree with you in terms of Research and Development advancement of Science, but the notion of space tourists is..................well pointless, the only thing one hopes is that those tourists realise that our earth is so precious and spend some of their wealth helping to improve it.
Most things are pointless in absolute terms, even research and the advancement of science. Tourism can drive innovation, increase safety and efficiency, and reduce costs. Look at the airline industry. But of course that's pointless as well.Gassing Station | Science! | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff