SpaceX Tuesday...

[Toaster]

p1stonhead said:

Shame no landing

probably needed all the fuel to 'get up there' so not quite the magic solution for re-usables yet.

[p1stonhead]

Toaster said:

p1stonhead said:

Shame no landing

probably needed all the fuel to 'get up there' so not quite the magic solution for re-usables yet.

It was due to the amount of fuel needed to get to the position they needed this time so yes didn't have enough fuel to get back to land this one.

I was about to post that I wasn't sure what you meant by 'magic solution' but then I saw it was you and remembered you were the really depressive bloke who tries to put a downer on anything posted in here.

[RobDickinson]

Toaster said:

probably needed all the fuel to 'get up there' so not quite the magic solution for re-usables yet.

A 6000kg sat to GEO doesnt leave the current f9 with anything spare to recover.

Plus the current f9 isnt speced up for good re usability (1-3 times) so not a lot of point risking the primary mission for a rocket you may never reuse.

In the future anything this heavy will be launched on a f9h anyhow and all stage 1's recovered.

But you know, carry on saying stupid stuff if thats all you can manage.

[Toaster]

RobDickinson said:

Toaster said:

probably needed all the fuel to 'get up there' so not quite the magic solution for re-usables yet.

A 6000kg sat to GEO doesnt leave the current f9 with anything spare to recover.

Plus the current f9 isnt speced up for good re usability (1-3 times) so not a lot of point risking the primary mission for a rocket you may never reuse.

In the future anything this heavy will be launched on a f9h anyhow and all stage 1's recovered.

But you know, carry on saying stupid stuff if thats all you can manage.

Well Rob, I wrote a simple reply it was not rude, crass or stupid just a simple reply.

[Toaster]

p1stonhead said:

It was due to the amount of fuel needed to get to the position they needed this time so yes didn't have enough fuel to get back to land this one.

I was about to post that I wasn't sure what you meant by 'magic solution' but then I saw it was you and remembered you were the really depressive bloke who tries to put a downer on anything posted in here.

Hmm Depressive, interesting no not depressive just a realist, and by magic I mean it has limitations by design and do tell whats depressive about that?

[RobDickinson]

Toaster said:

Well Rob, I wrote a simple reply it was not rude, crass or stupid just a simple reply.

You certainly read everything on here but none of it seems to sink in.

[p1stonhead]

Toaster said:

p1stonhead said:

It was due to the amount of fuel needed to get to the position they needed this time so yes didn't have enough fuel to get back to land this one.

I was about to post that I wasn't sure what you meant by 'magic solution' but then I saw it was you and remembered you were the really depressive bloke who tries to put a downer on anything posted in here.

Hmm Depressive, interesting no not depressive just a realist, and by magic I mean it has limitations by design and do tell whats depressive about that?

You seem to be referring to a time when someone (not sure who) claimed the landings were magic? Who was it?

They have always been limited by payload and fuel usage. Who claimed they were a magic solution to anything?

[MartG]

Toaster said:

p1stonhead said:

Shame no landing

probably needed all the fuel to 'get up there' so not quite the magic solution for re-usables yet.

Yes - this morning's payload weighed 5500kg, and the payload limit for retaining enough fuel to land is 4700kg

[Toaster]

MartG said:

Yes - this morning's payload weighed 5500kg, and the payload limit for retaining enough fuel to land is 4700kg

So in that configuration its just an ordinary Rocket then

[MartG]

Toaster said:

So in that configuration its just an ordinary Rocket then

Yes - though the Block 5 Falcon 9 will increase the payload limit a bit, in future it is likely that payloads that heavy will use Falcon Heavy with the 1st stage and boosters being recovered - or the cost of an expendable launch being reduced by using a 2nd hand ( or 3rd or more hand ) first stage

[Fonz]

What's ordinary about any rocket launch?

[RobDickinson]

MartG said:

Yes - though the Block 5 Falcon 9 will increase the payload limit a bit, in future it is likely that payloads that heavy will use Falcon Heavy with the 1st stage and boosters being recovered - or the cost of an expendable launch being reduced by using a 2nd hand ( or 3rd or more hand ) first stage

Dont bother he has the memory of a goldfish

[Eric Mc]

SpaceX has always said that they would not be able to make use of their first stage recovery system on every launch. And nobody has suggested otherwise.

I can't see what the issue is.

[ninja-lewis]

Next launch, SES-10, has a range window for Monday 27 March between 21:58 BST - 01:59 BST. It will be the first relaunch of a previously flown Falcon 9 core.

https://twitter.com/NASASpaceflight/status/8424829...

[RobDickinson]

Some suggestions that both side cores on the test f9h are high milage ones

[MartG]

Payload for the next launch fueled and ready https://spaceflightnow.com/2017/03/18/ses-10-telec...

[MartG]

MartG said:

Yes - this morning's payload weighed 5500kg, and the payload limit for retaining enough fuel to land is 4700kg

Just found that recovery will be attempted on the next flight, with a payload of 5300kg, with a barge landing. Maybe the 4700kg figure I saw earlier related to a landing back at Canaveral.

[RobDickinson]

MartG said:

Just found that recovery will be attempted on the next flight, with a payload of 5300kg, with a barge landing. Maybe the 4700kg figure I saw earlier related to a landing back at Canaveral.

Is that GEO too? orbit makes a lot of difference

[MartG]

RobDickinson said:

MartG said:

Just found that recovery will be attempted on the next flight, with a payload of 5300kg, with a barge landing. Maybe the 4700kg figure I saw earlier related to a landing back at Canaveral.

Is that GEO too? orbit makes a lot of difference

It's a DBS sat so will be GEO

[Beati Dogu]

The most recent Dragon supply capsule will be released from the ISS on Sunday morning, with a Pacific splashdown a few hours later.

NASA will be livestreaming it from 08.45 am UK time, with the release itself scheduled for 09.11.

It's carrying around 2.5 tonnes of cargo with it.