bright spots on Ceres

bright spots on Ceres

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gaz1234

5,233 posts

219 months

Monday 2nd March 2015
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funkyrobot said:
Eh? smile
Of light

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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gaz1234 said:
funkyrobot said:
Eh? smile
Of light
Eh?

smile

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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ash73 said:
Bright spot on the terminator



Dawn arrives tomorrow, on my birthday smile
Will be interesting to see what causes that. Could be some sort of reflection onto the camera lens.

Happy birthday. I hope Dawn fulfils your needs. smile

Toltec

7,159 posts

223 months

Thursday 5th March 2015
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There may be some similarly to this?
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/the-lumi...

Only a stub not a full article.

scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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ash73 said:
Bright spot on the terminator



Dawn arrives tomorrow, on my birthday smile
Now this is getting properly weird/interesting, it looks like its still the same spot in the crater but given the rotation its almost as if its emitting light?

I find it hard to believe it could be a camera glitch or reflection anymore so it will be fascinating to find out the source.

Eric Mc

121,897 posts

265 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Radio 4 said it might be salt deposits rather than ice.

funkyrobot

18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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I guess we'll be closer to finding out when it gets in orbit today. bounce

RobM77

35,349 posts

234 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Radio 4 said it might be salt deposits rather than ice.
yes I was going to post that. If anyone else is interested, there was an interview on Inside Science yesterday afternoon with one of the scientists involved with the Dawn probe. All the Inside Science episodes are available for download from the R4 website and it's a jolly good programme.

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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That is odd, to be so reflective at such different angles, with nothing else around.
Interesting.

scubadude

2,618 posts

197 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Eric Mc said:
Radio 4 said it might be salt deposits rather than ice.
But why would ice or salt reflect/emit light when on the "dark" side of a body like in the above photo?

I could believe it is any reflective material until I saw the above picture... unless the image was obtained with odd filtering?

peterperkins

3,151 posts

242 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Perhaps something we sent up years ago on a mars fly by and crashed on Ceres?
Aluminium heat reflective panels laid about from wreckage?

very central to the crater though, and the second photo showing it nearly side on is puzzling.

Scale of Ceres 950km diameter and the light areas?

Pillars of salt, volcanic minerals is possible I suppose.

Hoping for an Alien artifact but of course trillions to one against.

"The first images, from ten thousand kilometres away,
brought to a halt the activities of all mankind. On a billion
television screens, there appeared a tiny, featureless
cylinder, growing rapidly second by second. By the time
it had doubled its size, no one could pretend any longer
that Rama was a natural object.

Its body was a cylinder so geometrically perfect that it
might have been turned on a lathe - one with centres
fifty kilometres apart. The two ends were quite flat, apart
from some small structures at the centre of one face, and
were twenty kilometres across; from a distance, when
there was no sense of scale, Rama looked almost comic-
ally like an ordinary domestic boiler.

Rama grew until it filled the screen. Its surface was a
dull, drab grey, as colourless as the Moon, and completely
devoid of markings except at one point. Halfway along
the cylinder there was a kilometre-wide stain or smear, as
if something had once hit and splattered, ages ago.

There was no sign that the impact had done the slight-
est damage to Rama's spinning walls; but this mark had
produced the slight fluctuation in brightness that had led
to Stenton's discovery.

The images from the other cameras added nothing
new. However, the trajectories their pods traced .through
Rama's minute gravitational field gave one other vital
piece of information - the mass of the cylinder.

It was far too light to be a solid body. To nobody's
great surprise, it was clear that Rama must be hollow.

The long-hoped-for, long-feared encounter had come at
last. Mankind was about to receive its first visitor from the
stars."

Arthur C Clarke Rendezvous With Rama

MiniMan64

16,898 posts

190 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Well it looks like they've acheved orbit.

Now to see about that crashed alien ship bright spot is all about.

MartG

20,661 posts

204 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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MiniMan64 said:
Now to see about that crashed alien ship bright spot is all about.
Imagine the boost to NASA's budget if it was artificial smile

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Looking like a big lump on top.

MartG

20,661 posts

204 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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ash73 said:
Or something precious, like diamond.
If it was a huge diamond then every diamond would be instantly devalued - they are only precious because they are rare wink

MiniMan64

16,898 posts

190 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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All jokes aside can you imagine being the person at the screen when an image comes through and show's it's not a natural shiny spot?

Wow.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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My first thought was the Aristarchus crater on the moon. Seems to come and go depending on the light. I think I have a few shots during a lunar eclipse where it dims (as does the rest of the moon).

Edit. That is to say the same method in action on Ceres?

Edited by jmorgan on Saturday 7th March 06:47

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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More on the bright spot
JPL Clicky

Einion Yrth

19,575 posts

244 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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MartG said:
ash73 said:
Or something precious, like diamond.
If it was a huge diamond then every diamond would be instantly devalued - they are only precious because they are rare wink
They're not that rare, De Beers keeps them rarer by sitting on a huge stockpile.

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Tuesday 21st April 2015
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Einion Yrth said:
They're not that rare, De Beers keeps them rarer by sitting on a huge stockpile.
Must chafe after a while?