Mobile phones dangers when used inside cars

[PoleDriver]

[budfox]

Mate of mine had radiation poisoning and died in his car. Mind you, it was hit by a train.

[citizensm1th]

untakenname said:

Btw when it comes to wattage emitted Tetra/Airwave basestations put out far more RF and so does wifi.

yes lets ban male children from using laptops/ipads and irradiating their nads

[Inertiatic]

One other thing...As far as i know a reflected microwave would have far less energy associated with it and would not pose a real risk

Unless it was a ricocheting 800W Bosch - then I'd duck

[t400ble]

Silent1 said:

What a load of utter bullst!

Agreed.

[Inertiatic]

rikNorad said:

A car is a Faraday cage; not perfect and that's why we have signal but.....why a lightning that hits a car don't kill the occupants? Because we are inside a Faraday cage.
About the independent studies: as stated in the first post: Bioinitiative and even the IARC classifies mobile phones as possible carcinogenic.

Lightning is massively different to microwave radiation. It doesnt radiate, for a start.

How is a phone carcinogenic?

[KrazyIvan]

rikNorad said:

A car is a Faraday cage; not perfect and that's why we have signal but.....why a lightning that hits a car don't kill the occupants? Because we are inside a Faraday cage.
About the independent studies: as stated in the first post: Bioinitiative and even the IARC classifies mobile phones as possible carcinogenic.

..........oh wait your serious

[Impasse]

The solution seems to be buy a Lotus. Composite body panels for the win and for the unfried testicles.

[1878]

One of my favourite songs

[spikeyhead]

Inertiatic said:

Lightning is massively different to microwave radiation. It doesnt radiate, for a start.

How is a phone carcinogenic?

If you eat a mobile phone every day it's likely to cancer, or some other health issue.

[Munter]

rikNorad said:

I used the lightning as an example just to make clear that I'm a fking moron.

[Inertiatic]

rikNorad said:

I used the lightning as an example just to make clear that a car actually IS a faraday cage, an imperfect cage that even if let the mobile phone signal go through, part of these radiations keep bouncing inside the car and end absorbed by the bodies of occupants.

Many people spend a lot of time inside their cars: the fact that we spend a lot of time with these devices very close to our body should not justify having them also in the car but instead keep them off the body always.

Thats not how a Faraday cage works though...one size doesnt fit all.

You may have a point regarding keeping phones off the body, but that's due to the thermal nature of microwave radiation that promotes tissue growth...but this is over a very long time and AFAIK was associated primarily with the early analogue phones that used more power. Not even sure if a proven link was established...

[Inertiatic]

spikeyhead said:

If you eat a mobile phone every day it's likely to cancer, or some other health issue.

The new phablets would be hard to pass, that's for sure

[V8forweekends]

daytona365 said:

I quite agree. Secondhand cars that have been thus subjected to radiation should be viewed the same way as cars that have been smoked in, and should be sold at a good discount.........If money's more important than the obvious risks involved that is.

[KrazyIvan]

I take it your posting this from some sort of tofu powered abacus...

[rasto]

Lowtimer said:

Well, this is the first time I've seen a poster on here who might *actually* be about to recommend us all to wear tinfoil hats. Don't disappoint us, OP.

[citizensm1th]

im more worried about the one point twenty-one jigowatts flux capacitor in my car

it stops me receiving mark and lard one radio 1 so it cant be good

[F3RNY7]

Jimmy! I can't get PistonHeads up on this damn thing!

[Le TVR]

rikNorad said:

A car is a Faraday cage

Yes, but not at the frequency involved.
Any aperture in a Faraday cage must be less than around 1% of the wavelength involved.
It may be a Faraday cage at 1 MHz but at 900 or 1800 MHz it will be as effective as a chocolate fireguard.

rikNorad said:

.....why a lightning that hits a car don't kill the occupants?

Because the car body is acting as an ESD shield.
ESD is a totally different phenomena to RF.

rikNorad said:

About the independent studies: as stated in the first post: Bioinitiative and even the IARC classifies mobile phones as possible carcinogenic.

WHO and INCIRP said:

Studies to date provide no indication that environmental exposure to RF fields, such as from base stations, increases the risk of cancer or any other disease.

[Inertiatic]

Le TVR delivers the finishing move...