'UFOs' filmed leaving Earth just before NASA cuts feed
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jmorgan said:
ash73 said:
jmorgan said:
But what evidence I see put forward by the usual suspects, does not present a case to back them up.
Agree.The interesting aspect to me, is how the world would react if it became apparent we do have visitors. On the one hand, I don't think mankind is ready (just think about the massive impact on religion); on the other hand I wouldn't trust a government to deal with it sensibly, because politics attracts fallible megalomaniacs who think they can control things they can't. Much better it was out in the open, I think.
But yes, imagine the US contempt for the government of Andorra when ET decides to land there to say "Hi!".
Mind you, there will no doubt be some absolutely cringing speeches made to the visitors, one hopes that they like politicians. On a stick with some apple sauce.
ash73 said:
Religion cannot accommodate intelligent ET, they are fundamentally incompatible. Abrahamic religions differentiate humans from animals as being "special", i.e. they believe we have a soul, are created in God's image, have a special relationship with God, and committed original sin. If a more intelligent space-faring ET race came along it would devastate their beliefs, or at least it should do. It's not the same as just misunderstanding a science experiment, it's everything they believe in.
I don't understand why it would. As far as I know religeon does not require us to be the most advanced species in the universe, and even if it did, with the lack of evidence (he says without a trace of irony 
) of ETs capable of visiting Earth currently available, religeon currently is not under threat from this angle anyway.kiseca said:
ash73 said:
Religion cannot accommodate intelligent ET, they are fundamentally incompatible. Abrahamic religions differentiate humans from animals as being "special", i.e. they believe we have a soul, are created in God's image, have a special relationship with God, and committed original sin. If a more intelligent space-faring ET race came along it would devastate their beliefs, or at least it should do. It's not the same as just misunderstanding a science experiment, it's everything they believe in.
I don't understand why it would. As far as I know religeon does not require us to be the most advanced species in the universe, and even if it did, with the lack of evidence (he says without a trace of irony ) of ETs capable of visiting Earth currently available, religeon currently is not under threat from this angle anyway.jmorgan said:
kiseca said:
ash73 said:
Religion cannot accommodate intelligent ET, they are fundamentally incompatible. Abrahamic religions differentiate humans from animals as being "special", i.e. they believe we have a soul, are created in God's image, have a special relationship with God, and committed original sin. If a more intelligent space-faring ET race came along it would devastate their beliefs, or at least it should do. It's not the same as just misunderstanding a science experiment, it's everything they believe in.
I don't understand why it would. As far as I know religeon does not require us to be the most advanced species in the universe, and even if it did, with the lack of evidence (he says without a trace of irony ) of ETs capable of visiting Earth currently available, religeon currently is not under threat from this angle anyway.
ash73 said:
kiseca said:
jmorgan said:
kiseca said:
ash73 said:
Religion cannot accommodate intelligent ET, they are fundamentally incompatible. Abrahamic religions differentiate humans from animals as being "special", i.e. they believe we have a soul, are created in God's image, have a special relationship with God, and committed original sin. If a more intelligent space-faring ET race came along it would devastate their beliefs, or at least it should do. It's not the same as just misunderstanding a science experiment, it's everything they believe in.
I don't understand why it would. As far as I know religeon does not require us to be the most advanced species in the universe, and even if it did, with the lack of evidence (he says without a trace of irony ) of ETs capable of visiting Earth currently available, religeon currently is not under threat from this angle anyway.There are as many cherry-picked religions as there are religious people, but fundamentally they would have to rewrite the tenets of their faith completely. There's a big difference between the pope talking about inclusion and accepting anyone for baptism, and smart ET rocking up and showing us our relationship with God is not unique.
king clue what space was.Either way it leaves open the opportunity for ET to land, tell us that God said the same thing to them on their planet, and it turns out that to be created in god's image means to have a brain as your primary USP, limbs and hands capable of building stuff, and a atrong fascination with space.
The problem is, it could be argued that god was created in man's image, and we're still making the same mistake for hypothetical aliens. We expect them to have brains, to build stuff, to explore space, to listen to radio, all just like we do. We still see intelligence as the pinnacle of evolution. Perhaps it's not.
Eric Mc said:
A tad overly messianic, dont'cha think?
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