Have you ever seen a UFO?

[tuscaneer]

doogz said:

Exactly. Except it was bright yellow and looked like a handglider.

....so we have established that what you saw was some sort of aircraft doing stall drills.......far cry from e.t. though!

[alock]

tuscaneer said:

.....and then we get to the fermi paradox.......so where is all the evidence of these alien deep space probes??

I like this description.
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

[jmorgan]

tuscaneer said:

i am 100% convinced that there is abundant life out there.

i think intelligent life would be a much, much rarer commodity, given the incredible amounts of twists and turns in this planet's history that have allowed just the right environment for us to thrive.

if we are ever going to be visited by alien civilizations it would be unmanned machines , not little green men that would find us......

.....and then we get to the fermi paradox.......so where is all the evidence of these alien deep space probes??

More likely observed, as we observe them. Or rather the evidence of our existence. And then of course are we are forgetting time.

Pacman1978 said:

http://www.theguardian.com/science/2014/aug/21/sea...

They should check out this thread, seems the above have been sighted here too :-)

Does a story about a mass UFO sighting in the 1700's ring any bells? IIRC a number of UFOs came down from the skies and went below the water, water boils,
Crafts surface, aliens carry out repairs then fly off. Hundreds of witnesses, made the front page of local newspaper. Just one example of millions. They can't all be certifiable.

I also recall something about the van Allen belt and humpback whales? Same frequencies or same noise produced by both?

Certainly plausible advanced civilization's would want to study us. Simply impossible that we are alone, the multi billions of stars out there. Blows my mind to think the Wright brothers first flew in 1903, then in 69' the sr-71 made it's first flight.

People are just to blind to see. To consumed with owning the latest crap. Far too much evidence out there to just deny it all so easily. I admit I love a good conspiracy but you cannot deny the possibility.

Has anyone watched the KGB book of alien races youtube videos? Very entertaining! Cattle/people mutilations and abductions. Beats tv any day!

Must of missed the article in Ye Olde Daily Starrr regards 1700 aliens having a dive bombing competition.

Thing is, people latch on to stuff whilst claiming to "think outside the box" or "its obvious" etc etc but ignore the bits they do not want to hear. There is an interesting article on the cattle "mutilations" and it is quite easy to understand. Thing with that information is, no aliens needed. Same for abductions, the evidence trails goes very cold when looked at objectively.

Back to are we alone, we might be, and then again we might not be. Until we find evidence to say either way, it is all speculation.

I think there is life out there but we will never meet in person. Just observe the evidence of each others existence and alteration of an atmosphere. Don't mind being proven wrong and they are visiting.

[Einion Yrth]

tuscaneer said:

doogz said:

Exactly. Except it was bright yellow and looked like a handglider.

....so we have established that what you saw was some sort of aircraft doing stall drills...

Well, that and the fact that he can't spell "hang glider".

[Rogue86]

Has there been any space-activity of note today? I only ask as when I set off for work this morning, there were a dozen or so fairly-localised objects in the sky, all with trails behind. Similar to what you would expect from high-flying commercial aircraft, if they were flying in a very loose, non-uniform formation. They were moving at a much faster rate than I would expect from an aircraft of any type (which is actually what caught my interest initially having worked with military fast jets for some years) before one of the objects appeared to burn up and the trail disappear along with it.

I'm not suggesting this was any kind of alien activity but having looked in typical sources for news of either space debris or a military attack (my initial thought was that it looked like ICBM re-entry which was fairly alarming!) I've come across nothing. It was easily visible looking north and the trails being highlighted by the rising Sun (this was around 0804hrs). Conventional thinking was that the object I had seen 'burn up' was actually the rising Sun (not yet visible to me) reflecting off a metallic surface - potentially the object and trail disappearing could have been a trick of the light. That said it doesn't really explain the speed, number and similar direction.

Anyone know of anything in the Sky at that time? I'm in the UK.

[Einion Yrth]

Quadrantid meteor shower?

[Hilts]

tuscaneer said:

I had to perform exactly the same drills when training for my private pilot's license.

you basically throttle the plane right down to slow it down. at that point you have to lower your ailerons ( the flaps on the backs of the wings) to maintain lift. you get to a point where there just isn't enough lift no matter what you do and the plane basically starts to fall from the sky. it tends to dip to one side and fall in much the same manner you describe.

to correct this you open the ailerons back out, full throttle and pull slowly out of the dive. rinse and repeat a few times. this is regular training for ppl's and what you describe fits the bill exactly

You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

Lower your ailerons. Open the ailerons back out.

LMAO.

[tuscaneer]

Hilts said:

You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

Lower your ailerons. Open the ailerons back out.

LMAO.

I'm all ears for your description and attempt to explain how you stall an aircraft to someone who may not have flown before.
I may not be biggles but the 30 odd hours I spent in pursuit of my ppl before I packed it in was enough for me to have performed a stall or 2 . It seemed a lot easier than trying to explain about changing the angle of the ailerons to that of the Wing but either way....fk you!

Edited by tuscaneer on Sunday 17th January 15:50

Edited by tuscaneer on Sunday 17th January 15:51

[Hilts]

tuscaneer said:

Hilts said:

You haven't got a clue what you're talking about.

Lower your ailerons. Open the ailerons back out.

LMAO.

but either way....fk you!

Edited by tuscaneer on Sunday 17th January 15:50

Edited by tuscaneer on Sunday 17th January 15:51

What a charmer!

My fault, I mean you could have dementia.

Anyway google ailerons and get back to me Mr. 30 hours.

[tuscaneer]

Hilts said:

What a charmer!

My fault, I mean you could have dementia.

Anyway google ailerons and get back to me Mr. 30 hours.

If the implication is that I haven't done hours trying for my private licence then fine....Quite what's to be gained by saying I had when I hadn't I don't know. It was a mere footnote and distraction in my career path some 20 years ago.... but whatever pal.

[Hilts]

tuscaneer said:

If the implication is that I haven't done hours trying for my private licence then fine....Quite what's to be gained by saying I had when I hadn't I don't know. It was a mere footnote and distraction in my career path some 20 years ago.... but whatever pal.

Did you ever go solo?

[tuscaneer]

Perhaps it would have been easier to just post up a picture from my air pilot's manual....

[tuscaneer]

Hilts said:

Did you ever go solo?

No, that was next. Liverpool to Blackpool was mooted but I knew I was nowhere near and circuits with airport tax at speke was getting really expensive. It was costing me a weeks wages for a lesson with half a dozen circuits. With a hard arduous potential career ahead of me and getting fked off by British airways for their program I stuck to my original career path which ended up being absolutely the right thing to do.I certainly never looked back

[Eric Mc]

Did you mean to say "flaps" rather than "ailerons"?

Ailerons are for roll control. Flaps are used to assist in providing additional lift at lower speeds.

[Hilts]

tuscaneer said:

Hilts said:

Did you ever go solo?

No, that was next. Liverpool to Blackpool was mooted but I knew I was nowhere near and circuits with airport tax at speke was getting really expensive. It was costing me a weeks wages for a lesson with half a dozen circuits. With a hard arduous potential career ahead of me and getting fked off by British airways for their program I stuck to my original career path which ended up being absolutely the right thing to do.I certainly never looked back

I'm stopping now. Really.

Liverpool to Blackpool for your first solo?

Oh dear. BA missed a trick with you.

[tuscaneer]

Hilts said:

I'm stopping now. Really.

Liverpool to Blackpool for your first solo?

Oh dear. BA missed a trick with you.

The people at the liverpool flying school spoke of southport primarily, then barton then Blackpool....who knows it may have been a piss take as I wasn't particularly confident..and with no real reference point if it was a piss take it certainly went over my head. As I have said. Flying was an abortive footnote on my career path. Nothing g more nothing less. either way pal, it really isn't gonna effect me one way or another if you think I've had flying lessons or not. It has derailed this thread somewhat already.

[tuscaneer]

Eric Mc said:

Did you mean to say "flaps" rather than "ailerons"?

Ailerons are for roll control. Flaps are used to assist in providing additional lift at lower speeds.

it's been exactly 22 years since a brief interest in flying waned dramatically. You could put a gun to my head right now and I probably wouldn't even be able to remember how to start a fking light aircraft.!!

[tuscaneer]

......but yes, that's what meant!

[tuscaneer]

alock said:

I like this description.
http://waitbutwhy.com/2014/05/fermi-paradox.html

Really good article that!

[Eric Mc]

tuscaneer said:

......but yes, that's what meant!

That's all you had to say.