Stopping a tornado

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300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

190 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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rhinochopig said:
It's actually quite simple to do and there are plans afoot in the US. Wind-turbines have a significant and well document affect on weather patterns. It is predicted that by fitting a relatively small number of turbines at the edges of the 'tornado alley' that it would be sufficient to take enough energy out of the wind to prevent twisters from starting in the first place.
Yet tornado's can and do occur pretty much everywhere.

Turquoise

1,457 posts

97 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Very best of luck to them! biggrin

rhinochopig

17,932 posts

198 months

Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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300bhp/ton said:
rhinochopig said:
It's actually quite simple to do and there are plans afoot in the US. Wind-turbines have a significant and well document affect on weather patterns. It is predicted that by fitting a relatively small number of turbines at the edges of the 'tornado alley' that it would be sufficient to take enough energy out of the wind to prevent twisters from starting in the first place.
Yet tornado's can and do occur pretty much everywhere.
They do, but the reason Tornado Alley is called tornado alley is because - suprise surprise - it has the greatest concentration. The insurance costs run into 100s of billions of dollars so there is a strong financial incentive to reduce the occurence by even a small amount.

Risk management at that level is viewed on a national rather than local scale.

Edited by rhinochopig on Wednesday 4th May 12:27

Art0ir

9,401 posts

170 months

Saturday 7th May 2016
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Someone watched Sharknado recently...

ruggedscotty

5,626 posts

209 months

Sunday 8th May 2016
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Tornados ?

That funnel you see is only a small part of the tornado, in fact its tiny compared to the whole storm that spawns them.

The current theory of a tornado is that windshear generates a rotating column of air that swings from horizontal to vertical with the effects of warm ground generating uplift. This uplift gets quicker and stretches as its rotating generating suction drawing in more air which feeds the storm rotation. As it stretches that suction gets narrower and narrower, giving you that characteristic funnel that you see, the funnel bit though is only a small part of the storm....



A tornadic storm is huge, and the amount of power involved is on a scale that we struggle to understand or appreciate. A few wind turbines isnt going to stop the air flow that creates these monsters. You get a lot of heat into the ground and then you get that affecting the air above the ground - the air flows from the rockies and the air up from the gulf mixing and generating wind shear. Rotating air masses that then get upended and bingo !


rhinochopig

17,932 posts

198 months

Monday 9th May 2016
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ruggedscotty said:
Tornados ?

That funnel you see is only a small part of the tornado, in fact its tiny compared to the whole storm that spawns them.

The current theory of a tornado is that windshear generates a rotating column of air that swings from horizontal to vertical with the effects of warm ground generating uplift. This uplift gets quicker and stretches as its rotating generating suction drawing in more air which feeds the storm rotation. As it stretches that suction gets narrower and narrower, giving you that characteristic funnel that you see, the funnel bit though is only a small part of the storm....



A tornadic storm is huge, and the amount of power involved is on a scale that we struggle to understand or appreciate. A few wind turbines isnt going to stop the air flow that creates these monsters. You get a lot of heat into the ground and then you get that affecting the air above the ground - the air flows from the rockies and the air up from the gulf mixing and generating wind shear. Rotating air masses that then get upended and bingo !
Care to post up your peer reviewed study on the topic wink

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/02/...

ruggedscotty

5,626 posts

209 months

Wednesday 11th May 2016
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completely different.

Hurricane a wide storm thats would require a lot of turbines, trouble is that wind turbines have to be shut off in severe weather they cant cope with the stresses that high winds produce. So it would be a no no. wishfull thinking


Meridius

1,608 posts

152 months

Thursday 12th May 2016
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I think id just leave them be


2fast748

1,094 posts

195 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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I vaguely remember seeing a documentary about tornado's and a bloke suggested building large walls (200 meter +) to disrupt the air flows that cause them.

shakotan

10,690 posts

196 months

Monday 16th May 2016
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2fast748 said:
I vaguely remember seeing a documentary about tornado's and a bloke suggested building large walls (200 meter +) to disrupt the air flows that cause them.
You'd have to be a pretty fast brickie!

Brother D

3,719 posts

176 months

Friday 27th May 2016
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Beati Dogu said:
slipstream 1985 said:
Einion Yrth said:
I don't know whether or not "Science!" would ever have been the place for this thread, but it certainly isn't now.

The moderation on this site really is terrifyingly low of IQ.
I put it in the lounge to start with but it got moved.
It's no dafter an idea that a lot of real "science" and the use of atomic bombs for something like this was no doubt considered during the 1950s.
Like digging canals... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Plowshare