Blue Origin

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Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 9th May 2022
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ULA have sold 70 Vulcan flights according to boss Tory Bruno. So that will need 140 BE-4 engines, assuming they don’t introduce a means to get them back part way through.

God alone knows how long it’ll take New Glenn to become flight ready. They’ll probably bin a few of those before they get any back as well.

Talksteer

4,888 posts

234 months

Tuesday 10th May 2022
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Beati Dogu said:
ULA have sold 70 Vulcan flights according to boss Tory Bruno. So that will need 140 BE-4 engines, assuming they don’t introduce a means to get them back part way through.

God alone knows how long it’ll take New Glenn to become flight ready. They’ll probably bin a few of those before they get any back as well.
As part of the Amazon deal ULA will be developing the engine recovery option. If they were sensible they would use it as an opportunity to invest in reusability with private funds.

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Beati Dogu said:
Jeff Bezos has renamed the Blue Origin landing ship after his mum, Jacklyn. She was there to ceremonially smack it with a champagne bottle.



Both seen here with a handy scale model, complete with New Glenn booster onboard.
Now they’re sending the ship off to be scrapped in Brownsville, Texas.

Eric Mc

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122,062 posts

266 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Why?

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Seems they’re going with landing barges like SpaceX.

Eric Mc

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122,062 posts

266 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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Thanks.

I wonder why they changed their mind.

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 15th August 2022
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I expect it comes from seeing how SpaceX have got on; Which is super ironic after Blue Origin tried to sue SpaceX for using landings at sea.

They probably realised they don't need a large ship to recover their rocket and doing so while underway was a complication they could do without. SpaceX have done over a hundred barge landings now - and it's not often that weather in the landing area affects launch operations. I think they've lost one Falcon 9 booster after landing (but recovered the bottom half) and also a Falcon Heavy centre booster, which was lost in rough weather because the landing robot wasn't compatible with it at the time.


Eric Mc

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122,062 posts

266 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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Blue Origin has just had an abort 64 seconds into the launch and at an altitude of around 34,000 feet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6Y1xsvahKQ

No one on board this one.

MartG

20,695 posts

205 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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Unplanned test of the crew escape system - I wonder how big a hole the booster dug itself

Eric Mc

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122,062 posts

266 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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I've just watched his video and he was saying the telemetry indicated it might have been tumbling.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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Eric Mc said:
I've just watched his video and he was saying the telemetry indicated it might have been tumbling.
His?

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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Eric Mc said:
I've just watched his video and he was saying the telemetry indicated it might have been tumbling.
His?

Caruso

7,440 posts

257 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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garyhun said:
Eric Mc said:
I've just watched his video and he was saying the telemetry indicated it might have been tumbling.
His?
Scott Manley at a guess: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DoRp7nRIOpo

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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Caruso said:
Thanks.

Beati Dogu

8,896 posts

140 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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It’s hard to be certain, but it didn’t look like the landing rocket fired and the capsule hit the ground quite hard. It’s a good job no one was on it.

anonymous-user

55 months

Monday 12th September 2022
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Beati Dogu said:
It’s hard to be certain, but it didn’t look like the landing rocket fired and the capsule hit the ground quite hard. It’s a good job no one was on it.
I must admit that I had the same thought. They do happen so fast and so close to the moment of impact that it’s difficult to tell in real time though.

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2,113 posts

162 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Beati Dogu said:
It’s hard to be certain, but it didn’t look like the landing rocket fired and the capsule hit the ground quite hard. It’s a good job no one was on it.
Wikipedia says the landing speed with the parachutes is 16mph, but the capsule does have crushable bumpers, so the g-force shouldn’t be too high too cause any serious injuries.

Eric Mc

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122,062 posts

266 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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I think the landing rockets worked OK. That big puff of dust just before touchdown is caused by the rockets firing, not the actual impact.

nebpor

3,753 posts

236 months

Tuesday 13th September 2022
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Just watched the Scott Manley video - I didn't realise that the big fireball was actually the escape engine. Interesting to see the acceleration it provided, as he said, would have been pretty "thrilling" in there!!

jingars

1,095 posts

241 months

Sunday 18th September 2022
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Eric Berger on Twitter: "One of the payload operators says the New Shepard-23 ballistic reentry reached 15 Gs during its return to Earth. At this force passengers would have passed out, but it probably would not have been fatal."

Thrilling indeed.