The Flat Earth - Don't worry I'm not one of them

The Flat Earth - Don't worry I'm not one of them

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Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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James 33 said:
Because they would still have been built straight according to a spirit level or what ever method they use on massive building projects. Build a wall on a slope and you won't make it lean with the slope.
That does not address the situation where the curve is the same as the curvature of the earth.

As devil's advocate, I could argue the span of the earth the bridge is built on is curved. That does not prove the earth is curved.

m3jappa

6,426 posts

218 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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I enjoy reading this sort of stuff, if anything just to be able to see the sometimes lunatic comments (like the copied and pasted bit above).

One question I would ask is why would 'they' lie and say the earth is a sphere and not just tell the truth and say it's flat? What is to gain by saying it's round.

I know these flat earth people believe that the earth stops at Antarctica iirc but what is after that? What is beneath us if the sky is above us? Surely that has to start and stop somewhere too. Do they believe we are just on a flat plain floating around the universe?

It is actually quite interesting hehe

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Thursday 7th July 2016
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What about Scunthorpe, that's what I want to know...?

duffy78

470 posts

139 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Alpinestars said:
That does not address the situation where the curve is the same as the curvature of the earth.

As devil's advocate, I could argue the span of the earth the bridge is built on is curved. That does not prove the earth is curved.
The towers are built vertical. Due to the curvature of the earth they are further apart at the top than they are at the bottom.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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duffy78 said:
Alpinestars said:
That does not address the situation where the curve is the same as the curvature of the earth.

As devil's advocate, I could argue the span of the earth the bridge is built on is curved. That does not prove the earth is curved.
The towers are built vertical. Due to the curvature of the earth they are further apart at the top than they are at the bottom.
Yep, I get that.

How do you prove to someone who believes the earth is "flat" and argues that the bridge is built upon land which itself is curved, eg straddling a hill if you like. It's not a definitive way of proving the earth is curved. It only proves that the bridge is built on a curved area of land.

JoeMarano

1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Why do snipers account for the curvature of the earth if the earth is flat?

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Alpinestars said:
Yep, I get that.

How do you prove to someone who believes the earth is "flat"
You don't even try. You just smile knowingly to yourself and raise a little pity in your heart for someone with an intellect that barely exceeds that of a rather dim dung beetle.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Eric Mc said:
You don't even try. You just smile knowingly to yourself and raise a little pity in your heart for someone with an intellect that barely exceeds that of a rather dim dung beetle.
One could take that approach, but my point was that the bridge example has other explanations.

Flying West, and only West from the UK and eventually ending up back there, is a fairly simple way of proving the earth is not flat.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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JoeMarano said:
Why do snipers account for the curvature of the earth if the earth is flat?
Do you mean bullet drop?

Alpinestars said:
Flying West, and only West from the UK and eventually ending up back there, is a fairly simple way of proving the earth is not flat.
You cold show them the many photos of the Earth taken from space since the 1960s - but I suppose they'd say that was all made up too. Really, these people need to be put in the Army and used as cannon fodder.

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Simpo Two said:
You cold show them nay photos of the Earth taken from space since the 1960s - but I suppose they'd say that was all made up too. Really, these people need to be put in the Army and used to reduce the enemy ammo supply.
People still believe man has not ventured into space. And there are still those who believe in the geocentric model. That's harder to disprove.

JoeMarano

1,042 posts

100 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Simpo Two said:
You cold show them the many photos of the Earth taken from space since the 1960s - but I suppose they'd say that was all made up too. Really, these people need to be put in the Army and used as cannon fodder.
Nope. Believe it's called the coriolis effect or something similar.

Eric Mc

122,031 posts

265 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Alpinestars said:
One could take that approach, but my point was that the bridge example has other explanations.

Flying West, and only West from the UK and eventually ending up back there, is a fairly simple way of proving the earth is not flat.
Simple to anyone with half a brain - but not simple to a simpleton.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Alpinestars said:
Flying West, and only West from the UK and eventually ending up back there, is a fairly simple way of proving the earth is not flat.
Ok then, if the earth is not flat, how do you account for the fact that I once fell off?

RizzoTheRat

25,165 posts

192 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Alpinestars said:
One could take that approach, but my point was that the bridge example has other explanations.

Flying West, and only West from the UK and eventually ending up back there, is a fairly simple way of proving the earth is not flat.
Simple to anyone with half a brain - but not simple to a simpleton.
Except as previously mentioned it also works on a diskworld with north or south at the centre

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
Ok then, if the earth is not flat, how do you account for the fact that I once fell off?
Too much drink?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

255 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Alpinestars said:
mybrainhurts said:
Ok then, if the earth is not flat, how do you account for the fact that I once fell off?
Too much drink?
Ah...

Alpinestars

13,954 posts

244 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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RizzoTheRat said:
Except as previously mentioned it also works on a diskworld with north or south at the centre
I'm sure I asked for an explanation last time. How does that work? How on Earth (pun intended) do you ever get back to the UK by continuing to fly West if the Earth is a disc?

MartG

20,678 posts

204 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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m3jappa said:
I know these flat earth people believe that the earth stops at Antarctica iirc but what is after that? What is beneath us if the sky is above us?
Turtles winkjester

Danattheopticians

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375 posts

102 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Alpinestars said:
I'm sure I asked for an explanation last time. How does that work? How on Earth (pun intended) do you ever get back to the UK by continuing to fly West if the Earth is a disc?
If the north is magnetic an you flew in a line of equal magnetic pull (Don't know how this would be measured, just 1 hypothesis) but couldn't you theoretically feel you are flying east around a spherical earth but actually be flying in a circle over a flat plain on the flat model?

Toltec

7,159 posts

223 months

Tuesday 12th July 2016
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Alpinestars said:
I'm sure I asked for an explanation last time. How does that work? How on Earth (pun intended) do you ever get back to the UK by continuing to fly West if the Earth is a disc?
You fly in a circle, just in a different plane. smile