The Flat Earth - Don't worry I'm not one of them
Discussion
Alpinestars said:
Toltec said:
You fly in a circle, just in a different plane. 
How would you be travelling West all the time? Sorry if being slow. 
JoeMarano said:
Simpo Two said:
You cold show them the many photos of the Earth taken from space since the 1960s - but I suppose they'd say that was all made up too. Really, these people need to be put in the Army and used as cannon fodder.
Nope. Believe it's called the coriolis effect or something similar.Touche
Always fun to dip into the idiot's toolbox.
MartG said:
Because you'd be doing a circle around the North Pole, and a magnetic compass would give the impression you are flying in a straight line as North would always be to your right ( if travelling 'West' ). A gyro compass would be a different story
Ah I see. Not sure my iphone compass would be fooled!
The truth is thought, and I don't believe the flat earth, but no genuine pictures of from space as they are composites put together, reason for this are resolution on cameras wouldn't allow it so composites wouldn't allow a full scale detailed picture to be taken. Look online now at images from space of the earth and analyse them they are obviously not genuine. Also in no pictures of the earth from space can you see a single other satellite.
So then to prove spherical earth from on earth and without space travel does actually become much harder. The constellations become the best evidence. Viewing them from Northern and southern hemispheres show: constellations which cannot be viewed from the opposite hemisphere, and the direction in which the stars move in each hemisphere give the most conclusive (On earth) evidence.
So then to prove spherical earth from on earth and without space travel does actually become much harder. The constellations become the best evidence. Viewing them from Northern and southern hemispheres show: constellations which cannot be viewed from the opposite hemisphere, and the direction in which the stars move in each hemisphere give the most conclusive (On earth) evidence.
Simpo Two said:
JoeMarano said:
Simpo Two said:
You cold show them the many photos of the Earth taken from space since the 1960s - but I suppose they'd say that was all made up too. Really, these people need to be put in the Army and used as cannon fodder.
Nope. Believe it's called the coriolis effect or something similar.Touche
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Always fun to dip into the idiot's toolbox.
Alpinestars said:
MartG said:
Because you'd be doing a circle around the North Pole, and a magnetic compass would give the impression you are flying in a straight line as North would always be to your right ( if travelling 'West' ). A gyro compass would be a different story
Ah I see. Not sure my iphone compass would be fooled!https://www.quora.com/How-does-the-compass-on-the-...
Just noticed that the quote from the flat earther site mentions epicycles, hardly surprising they have the wrong idea when they are basing their refutations on an astronomical theory that is a couple of thousand years old. Perhaps Kepler's model is just too new to be even considered worth refuting.
Moonhawk said:
How do flat earthers explain the change in positions of the stars in the night sky.
If the earth was flat you would see the same constellations from every point on earth and people on earth would only ever be able to view 1/2 of the sky at any one time.
Probably think it's a hologram, along with the moon If the earth was flat you would see the same constellations from every point on earth and people on earth would only ever be able to view 1/2 of the sky at any one time.
I mean some conspiracy stuff, I do have to go and get the tin foil but this sort of thing is up there with reptilians and drinking the blood of children
Danattheopticians said:
... no genuine pictures of from space as they are composites put together, reason for this are resolution on cameras wouldn't allow it so composites wouldn't allow a full scale detailed picture to be taken. Look online now at images from space of the earth and analyse them they are obviously not genuine.
I believe Tim Peake just used a Nikon D4. No composite images. Have you looked at the thousands of images taken from the ISS?You cannot just say they are 'obviously not genuinue' without justification.
MartG said:
Bugger. The earth must be flat then. alock said:
Danattheopticians said:
... no genuine pictures of from space as they are composites put together, reason for this are resolution on cameras wouldn't allow it so composites wouldn't allow a full scale detailed picture to be taken. Look online now at images from space of the earth and analyse them they are obviously not genuine.
I believe Tim Peake just used a Nikon D4. No composite images. Have you looked at the thousands of images taken from the ISS?You cannot just say they are 'obviously not genuinue' without justification.
Alpinestars said:
MartG said:
Because you'd be doing a circle around the North Pole, and a magnetic compass would give the impression you are flying in a straight line as North would always be to your right ( if travelling 'West' ). A gyro compass would be a different story
Ah I see. Not sure my iphone compass would be fooled!
Think of it in PH terms, when you drive in a straight line all 4 (identical) wheels rotate at the same rate, but when you corner the inner wheels turn slower because they cover a shorter distance.
Now imagine a car 500(ish) miles wide (with really big tyres so it floats). As you head west the left wheels pass through Lands End, and the right wheels are inline with John O'Groats. Because we live on a sphere, the distance west from Lands End to Lands End is 13,917 nautical miles, but at John o'Groats it's only 8,479 NM. When you get back to your start point your left wheels will have covered 5438 NM more than your right wheels, so clearly you haven't been travelling in a straight line.
What you've done by heading west is travelled in a circle with North at the centre, just as you would have done on a disk world, however the effect would be more pronounced on a disk. the only way you could drive around the world by heading west and travelling in straight line would be to do it at the equator.
RizzoTheRat said:
I'm no apple fanboy but I can't believe an iPhone is that bad
Think of it in PH terms, when you drive in a straight line all 4 (identical) wheels rotate at the same rate, but when you corner the inner wheels turn slower because they cover a shorter distance.
Now imagine a car 500(ish) miles wide (with really big tyres so it floats). As you head west the left wheels pass through Lands End, and the right wheels are inline with John O'Groats. Because we live on a sphere, the distance west from Lands End to Lands End is 13,917 nautical miles, but at John o'Groats it's only 8,479 NM. When you get back to your start point your left wheels will have covered 5438 NM more than your right wheels, so clearly you haven't been travelling in a straight line.
What you've done by heading west is travelled in a circle with North at the centre, just as you would have done on a disk world, however the effect would be more pronounced on a disk. the only way you could drive around the world by heading west and travelling in straight line would be to do it at the equator.
Presumably I'd have a very PH car that would float on water. Think of it in PH terms, when you drive in a straight line all 4 (identical) wheels rotate at the same rate, but when you corner the inner wheels turn slower because they cover a shorter distance.
Now imagine a car 500(ish) miles wide (with really big tyres so it floats). As you head west the left wheels pass through Lands End, and the right wheels are inline with John O'Groats. Because we live on a sphere, the distance west from Lands End to Lands End is 13,917 nautical miles, but at John o'Groats it's only 8,479 NM. When you get back to your start point your left wheels will have covered 5438 NM more than your right wheels, so clearly you haven't been travelling in a straight line.
What you've done by heading west is travelled in a circle with North at the centre, just as you would have done on a disk world, however the effect would be more pronounced on a disk. the only way you could drive around the world by heading west and travelling in straight line would be to do it at the equator.
Eric Mc said:
Alpinestars said:
Yep, I get that.
How do you prove to someone who believes the earth is "flat"
You don't even try. You just smile knowingly to yourself and raise a little pity in your heart for someone with an intellect that barely exceeds that of a rather dim dung beetle.How do you prove to someone who believes the earth is "flat"
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