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Starfighter

4,927 posts

178 months

Sunday 30th October 2016
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The Atlantis shuttle is banked at exactly 32.1 degrees.

I was talking to a genuine NASA rocket scientist and he said that the whole space centre is full of maths and science jokes put in be the staff to make thing a little more geeky.

The launch simulator is worth a ride.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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What is the significance of 32.5 degrees?

CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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Eric Mc said:
What is the significance of 32.5 degrees?
I'm guessing, something to do with the re-entry profile?

pherlopolus

2,088 posts

158 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Pop along to Kermit Weeks' outfit at Kissimmee.
That place was amazing, is it still good now they have scaled it down?

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

261 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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AW111 said:
So could Atlantis have existed, and if so, where? hehe
No, and just east of Malta.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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CrutyRammers said:
Eric Mc said:
What is the significance of 32.5 degrees?
I'm guessing, something to do with the re-entry profile?
During re-entry the Orbiter normally assumed a nose up angle - presenting its flat, tiled underside, to the airflow. However, as it came down through the atmosphere it carried out a number of "s" turns to kill off airspeed and height so that they would eventually arrive over the landing site at the correct altitude, direction and speed. Maybe those turns were conducted at a maximum bank angle of 32.5 degrees?

On STS-1, when performing these "s" turns, John Young nearly turned the Orbiter over on its back. It turned out that the Orbiter was producing far more lift at Mach 10-20 than wind tunnel tests had predicted and the fly by wire hand controller was too sensitive.


CrutyRammers

13,735 posts

198 months

Monday 31st October 2016
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Eric Mc said:
During re-entry the Orbiter normally assumed a nose up angle - presenting its flat, tiled underside, to the airflow. However, as it came down through the atmosphere it carried out a number of "s" turns to kill off airspeed and height so that they would eventually arrive over the landing site at the correct altitude, direction and speed. Maybe those turns were conducted at a maximum bank angle of 32.5 degrees?

On STS-1, when performing these "s" turns, John Young nearly turned the Orbiter over on its back. It turned out that the Orbiter was producing far more lift at Mach 10-20 than wind tunnel tests had predicted and the fly by wire hand controller was too sensitive.
I was thinking of that sort of thing. Can't check now, but IIRC the initial phase of the reentry was at a crazy bank angle, something like 70 degrees with a lot of nose up (maybe that's the 32 degrees?). The s-turns came after it had slowed down a little.

Eric Mc

122,029 posts

265 months

Tuesday 1st November 2016
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The angle for Shuttle re-entry was 40 degrees -




Starfighter

4,927 posts

178 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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Eric Mc said:
What is the significance of 32.5 degrees?
It is 32.1 not 32.5 degrees and is very simple.

3 - 2 - 1

Edited by Starfighter on Sunday 13th November 02:44

dodgyviper

1,197 posts

238 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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Went there in 2014 - superb day and a very impressive exhibit. Pictures do it no justice. The sense of scale when seen in the flesh is awe inspiring.





After gawking at it for not long enough, we had to leave to get the bus to the Saturn V site. Walked out of the doors to this....


Name the phenomenon..

PS the Saturn V was equally awe inspiring.

dvs_dave

8,624 posts

225 months

Monday 14th November 2016
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It is a very impressive exhibit. Up close it's much larger than I was expecting.

The facts and figures and the general extremity of every aspect of its engineering is amazing. Especially that around the rocket motors.

The tribute areas to Challenger and Columbia are also very sobering and it really brings it home just how dangerous and quickly it can go wrong.