Speed of light

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Monkeylegend

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26,335 posts

231 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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If you are travelling in a vehicle at the speed of light in the dark, what would happen if you turned your lights on.

Would it make any difference?

All in fun of course, just like to settle an "argument"

Shame about the title, I was typing at the speed of light.


swisstoni

16,957 posts

279 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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It's all relative.

Equus

16,852 posts

101 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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You would be instantly transported to the Science forum, where you should have posted this ste in the first place.

MrGman

1,586 posts

206 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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besides there are no cars (certainly that i know of) that can go that fast so it doesn't matter.

If you did however, they'd wouldn't help you.

Monkeylegend

Original Poster:

26,335 posts

231 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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I didn't say it was in a car.

I am sure the mods will move or delete as necessary wink

moustache

292 posts

111 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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The speed of light is a constant, it won't increase because the car travels faster. The light travels at 300,000,000m/s relative to the car.

(I teach physics, if you needed reassuring about whether I know what I'm talking about)

GC8

19,910 posts

190 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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Through what?

Light travels at different speeds, after all...

davepoth

29,395 posts

199 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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Is the vehicle on a conveyor belt?

The answer is nothing, probably. Due to the effect of time dilation, time would have effectively stopped for the person turning on the lights - it would take the entire lifespan of the universe for the lights to turn on.

motco

15,944 posts

246 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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moustache said:
The speed of light is a constant, it won't increase because the car travels faster. The light travels at 300,000,000m/s relative to the car.

(I teach physics, if you needed reassuring about whether I know what I'm talking about)
Are you saying that the light will travel at 300,000,000m/s PLUS the speed of the vehicle? You said "relative to the car" which implies that the car's speed added.

NordicCrankShaft

1,723 posts

115 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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motco said:
Are you saying that the light will travel at 300,000,000m/s PLUS the speed of the vehicle? You said "relative to the car" which implies that the car's speed added.
He also said the speed of light is constant and won't increase because the vehicle travels faster.

TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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Having your lights on isn't going to make much difference, because there's bugger all chance of you avoiding anything.

moustache

292 posts

111 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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anonymous said:
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You're going to need to look at Eintein's equations regarding time dilation and specifically the Lorentz factor.

NordicCrankShaft

1,723 posts

115 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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ash73 said:
Sure, it's all explained here

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
And there's me looking forward to something interesting and scientific laugh

menguin

3,764 posts

221 months

Saturday 11th March 2017
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Better YouTube link (and generally excellent YouTube channel):

https://youtu.be/ACUuFg9Y9dY

Monty Python

4,812 posts

197 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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You cannot travel at the speed of light, so the question is hypothetical, and therefore any answer is also hypothetical.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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As you aproach the speed of light you would see less and less apart from a 'tunnel' of light ahead and behind.

Ahead would be blue shifted, behind would be red shifted.

I'm assuming if you reached the speed of light you would just see a bright dot ahead as you hit the oncoming light, and not much else.



Recently some physicist calculated a photon only lasts 3 days - this is what the photon would experience, but because they travel at the speed of light this effectively slows down time for them (well us) and they will outlast the universe

Boring_Chris

2,348 posts

122 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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I thought that if you were traveling at the speed of light, then you experience no time?

So the trip would be too short to really jot down your observations.

But how 'far' does light travel? If I was in space and pointed my torch into space, would it reflect off Pluto? Or further?

Some Gump

12,687 posts

186 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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If you were at the speed of light, your mass would be infinite.

Unless there were no gravitational fields whatsoever, you'd see nothing, because you'd be long dead.

Fugazi

564 posts

121 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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A really, really 'old' internet video dating back to 1997 I believe, so it has terrible resolution which kind of adds to it's charm, but it does explain things quite nicely.

Optical effects of Special Relativity

K12beano

20,854 posts

275 months

Monday 13th March 2017
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You've got confused with the Speed of Dark.....