2040 - Humans to be replaced by machines.

2040 - Humans to be replaced by machines.

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EDLT

15,421 posts

206 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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ewenm said:
2041 - Skynet becomes self-aware...
At least its British:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skynet_%28satellites%...

Marf

22,907 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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r1ch said:
Marf said:
What makes you say that? Do you have evidence to say that or is your opinion based on the fact you dont want it to happen?
Just a hunch if im honest.
Fair enough. It's been done with animal brains. I'm not sure what makes our brains so special that we couldnt recreate them artificially.

Once the underlying communication and biochemical mechanisms are fully understood, I can't see any reason why they couldn't be simulated given enough computing power and software knowhow.

r1ch

2,872 posts

196 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Marf said:
Fair enough. It's been done with animal brains. I'm not sure what makes our brains so special that we couldnt recreate them artificially.

Once the underlying communication and biochemical mechanisms are understood, I can't see any reason why they couldn't be simulated given enough computing power and software knowhow.
I dont really understand when they say they can recreate a human brain. The thing that makes humans special is everyone is different. Like how will a machine every recreate Einsteins mind, or Steven Hawkin, or Mozart.

All im thinking is, there is going to be some quality pornography on the horizon.

Marf

22,907 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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r1ch said:
Marf said:
Fair enough. It's been done with animal brains. I'm not sure what makes our brains so special that we couldnt recreate them artificially.

Once the underlying communication and biochemical mechanisms are understood, I can't see any reason why they couldn't be simulated given enough computing power and software knowhow.
I dont really understand when they say they can recreate a human brain. The thing that makes humans special is everyone is different. Like how will a machine every recreate Einsteins mind, or Steven Hawkin, or Mozart.
I understand it to mean they feel they can reproduce the underlying neural mechanisms that exist in our brains which allow for conciousness, intelligence, creativity etc, not copy an existing "conciousness". Any artificial brain would be a blank canvas on which a unique intelligence could be fostered.

r1ch said:
All im thinking is, there is going to be some quality pornography on the horizon.


SVX

2,182 posts

211 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Marf said:
That is the biggest hurdle IMO. How would you ensure that a self aware computer would not turn against us?
Would you like to play a game Joshua?

HOGEPH

5,249 posts

186 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Blokes were replaced by machines when the Rampant Rabbit came out.

Eric Mc

122,033 posts

265 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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It's already started.




EDLT

15,421 posts

206 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Eric Mc said:
It's already started.

Not sure about that, computers are quite good with numbers...

Brighton Derly

597 posts

159 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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I can see where this is going...

Human thought replaced by machines.

Humans no longer have to think because the machines are doing all the thinking for them.

Within a couple of generations humans become stupid (like the Eloi in HG Wells's 'Time Machine')

The non-stupid 'elite' begin to manually manipulate the machines to produce information they can use to control the stupid majority...

No thanks.

Marf

22,907 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Fascinating how so much thought on this subject seems to be influenced by fiction.

WorAl

10,877 posts

188 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Cock Womble 7 said:
fk off.
Are you going to try and fit that response into every thread today? hehe

Brighton Derly

597 posts

159 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Marf said:
Fascinating how so much thought on this subject seems to be influenced by fiction.
Fiction reflects reality.

Marf

22,907 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Brighton Derly said:
Marf said:
Fascinating how so much thought on this subject seems to be influenced by fiction.
Fiction reflects reality.
Funny, I tend to find reality to be far more varied. I guess if you view life through simple terms then yes you can ascribe everything that comes to pass as a reflection of a narrow work of fiction. smile

Mr E

21,618 posts

259 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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thinfourth2 said:
The thing about AI is it is always ten years away
smile

Marf

22,907 posts

241 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Marf said:
There's a good article in this months Time which details his writings and predictions surrounding "The Singularity"
http://www.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,2048138-1,00.html

TheEnd

15,370 posts

188 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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Apparently all of the electronic things about at the moment are about equal to one brain.

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/2011/02/adding...

They do seem to be suggesting you can upload your iTunes account to your DNA too.

McAndy

12,459 posts

177 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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I'm not convinced. Human brains demonstrate emotion, which can often be described a failry illogical. You'd have to try and programme emotion. Programming is done through logical steps. QED.

WorAl

10,877 posts

188 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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McAndy said:
I'm not convinced. Human brains demonstrate emotion, which can often be described a failry illogical. You'd have to try and programme emotion. Programming is done through logical steps. QED.
Hence Arnie doesn't really know what crying is about.

McAndy

12,459 posts

177 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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WorAl said:
McAndy said:
I'm not convinced. Human brains demonstrate emotion, which can often be described a failry illogical. You'd have to try and programme emotion. Programming is done through logical steps. QED.
Hence Arnie doesn't really know what crying is about.
Cold hearted droid cry

I suppose it could be approached from another direction. Machines could potentially usurp humans on the planet by exploiting the 'weak point' that is emotion through cold, hard logic to kill until they are all that is left. That would bring replacement.

I'm going to walk away from my computer now...it's scaring me!

EINSIGN

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5,494 posts

246 months

Saturday 26th February 2011
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McAndy said:
I'm not convinced. Human brains demonstrate emotion, which can often be described a failry illogical. You'd have to try and programme emotion. Programming is done through logical steps. QED.
Babies brains are programmed as they grow, through the evolutionary (and very slow process) of survival through signals supplied to the brain, via pain, sight, sound etc, some would argue that emotion and logic are also learnt. So why couldn’t a computer do the same?

The growth of intelligent computers will go so fast when it happens that humans will not be able to comprehend nor understand it. Even comparing what will happen to humans is not logical as we will be considered an inferior design.

1 Year in human terms could be 31 seconds in processing power terms in the future. Imagine what could be invented, created or destroyed in only a couple of hours…