Oil extractor pump - a warning

[Mave]

22rgt B Squadron said:

Theyre not, total rubbish and wont remove all the old oil. Far better to do the job properly and a lot easier by just draining the oil at the drain plug which is what its for.

IMHO it's far easier to take out the dipstick, shove the tube in and give it a pump than jack the car up, put it on stands, and take the plug out.

[stewjohnst]

B'stard Child said:

I really don't get it*

• I get the poly pipe bit (look on the side of the sump for a level sensor that and a pick up grabber tool (old coat hanger with a hook made on the end is an alternative) should help you fish it out)

When all the rubbish in the sump is designed to end up by the plug at the lowest point you chose to suck it out from a random location using a tube and pump when it takes litteraly 30 secs to undo the sump plugh and drop the old oil into an old washing up bowl

How chuffing hard is it........

Depends...the sump plug on my Alfa ain't budging without battering it to bits, allen key / hex bolt hole has rusted into a lovely smooth circle...



Edit : Being upside down probably doesnt help

[B'stard Child]

stewjohnst said:

B'stard Child said:

I really don't get it*

• I get the poly pipe bit (look on the side of the sump for a level sensor that and a pick up grabber tool (old coat hanger with a hook made on the end is an alternative) should help you fish it out)

When all the rubbish in the sump is designed to end up by the plug at the lowest point you chose to suck it out from a random location using a tube and pump when it takes litteraly 30 secs to undo the sump plugh and drop the old oil into an old washing up bowl

How chuffing hard is it........

Depends...the sump plug on my Alfa ain't budging without battering it to bits, allen key / hex bolt hole has rusted into a lovely smooth circle...



Edit : Being upside down probably doesnt help

Read on fella - read on - I've now got one and for cars designed to have the oil sucked out it's frankly bloody briliant

[stewjohnst]

B'stard Child said:

Read on fella - read on - I've now got one and for cars designed to have the oil sucked out it's frankly bloody briliant

I just unscrewed the oil filter and took what I could from there....bodge job? me

[B'stard Child]

stewjohnst said:

B'stard Child said:

Read on fella - read on - I've now got one and for cars designed to have the oil sucked out it's frankly bloody briliant

I just unscrewed the oil filter and took what I could from there....bodge job? me

This is hard work - probably much like your Alfa

What I meant was I was very anti these pumps - till I got a car that made dropping the oil difficult

Now I am very pro

Any way someone has already remove your drain plug with a cold chisel _ I'd do it again

[stewjohnst]

B'stard Child said:

This is hard work - probably much like your Alfa

What I meant was I was very anti these pumps - till I got a car that made dropping the oil difficult

Now I am very pro

Any way someone has already remove your drain plug with a cold chisel _ I'd do it again

If I had a vac pump lying around I’d gladly have used it...as for the cold chisel approach, I sae the nick and assumed someone has done that. I didn’t fancy my odds of tightening it back up to correct torque like that though

[sanguinary]

stewjohnst said:

B'stard Child said:

Read on fella - read on - I've now got one and for cars designed to have the oil sucked out it's frankly bloody briliant

I just unscrewed the oil filter and took what I could from there....bodge job? me

Lol! It wasn't just me then!

Did that many years back with my 156. Unscrew filter, start engine, pump oil out, stop engine when flow stops, fit new filter and fill with oil. Never missed a beat.

[BIRMA]

I bought an £18 oil extractor from e-bay that has crocodile clips to connect to the battery, it came from Germany and is of excellent quality. One piece pipe to go down the dipstick orifice and it did it in seconds although you have to have the oil hot. One other thing I did was marked the end of the pipe that goes down the dipstick to ensure I had the right length inserted. Then after removing the oil filter (on a Mini) drained a further 300-500ml after a few minutes.
It's a well made solid bit of kit that makes oil changes quick and simple.

[anonymous-user]

I've had one of the Laser ones for years, it's so much easier than trying to get the car up on ramps to get under it. Warm the car up, stick the pipe in, go for a cuppa. Half an hour later 3 litres of oil is out. Total capacity is 4L so there's a litre of "old" oil still in there, minus whatever is in the filter, but seeing as it's so easy to do I just do the oil change more often.

https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/laser-3659-oilflui...

I really do not miss the task of a) trying to get under the car which means getting it on ramps as its too low for the jack but it won't climb the ramps as the front bumper scrapes so it has to be on wooden planks first and then up onto the ramps argh ffs, b) trying to remove the sump plug, c) trying to get the oil into just the catch pan and not up your arms, d) trying to get the oil from the flat catch pan into a sealable storage container.

[anonymous-user]

Chrismawa said:

apples24 said:

I bought one from eBay to do my discovery 3 it don’t bloody work, tried bucket water worked.

Got about half a cup full out lol

Was gutted

Buy a proper one. Get a Pela. They work.

Did you warm the car up first? Typically they need the oil to be warm / hot so it flows easily along the pipe.

[E-bmw]

stewjohnst said:

B'stard Child said:

Any way someone has already remove your drain plug with a cold chisel _ I'd do it again

I didn’t fancy my odds of tightening it back up to correct torque like that though

Heaven forbid, you could always do what the lazy twunt who was there before you should have done.

Remove it as however you need to & replace it with one that isn't fooked!

[Oilchange]

Reason I got mine was for my Alfa, the sump plug (bronze) was torqued so tightly by the previous twits that it trashed the thread within the sump (Aluminium alloy) so when I put it back in it spun within the thread.

I had to drain the new oil out, clean it all up and glue the plug in place with RTV black sealant. Then suck the oil out in future using a Pela. Actually it made life much easier for that model as I could undo the filter by just reaching under the front of the car.

[stewjohnst]

E-bmw said:

Heaven forbid, you could always do what the lazy twunt who was there before you should have done.

Remove it as however you need to & replace it with one that isn't fooked!

I would have done that but by the time I’d got it all set under the car (I had a few different jobs on the go like painting part of the car) it wasn’t practical to drop it off the jacks, pack it back up, magically let paint dry and drive to get a new plug in the time I had put aside for the jobs.

Hence, bodge

[E-bmw]

Well that is OK, because the issue is still there & you can just order another plug now you know how to fix the job properly, leave it as it is until the replacement arrives & just do the job properly next weekend.

[B'stard Child]

E-bmw said:

Well that is OK, because the issue is still there & you can just order another plug now you know how to fix the job properly, leave it as it is until the replacement arrives & just do the job properly next weekend.

I’ve lost count of the number of parts I have for those sorts of jobs - many for cars I no longer own

Anyone want a starter motor, brake caliper bolts, rocker cover gasket or a cyl head for a 6N polo 1.4 Engine code AEX, I have other bits for other cars but didn’t want to spam the thread

[stewjohnst]

E-bmw said:

Well that is OK, because the issue is still there & you can just order another plug now you know how to fix the job properly, leave it as it is until the replacement arrives & just do the job properly next weekend.

Indeed, I have a spare 5 litres of oil anyway (best to have loads lying about with a twin spark Alfa, they drink a lot) and a £4.99 plug on order from fleabay

[E-bmw]

stewjohnst said:

E-bmw said:

Well that is OK, because the issue is still there & you can just order another plug now you know how to fix the job properly, leave it as it is until the replacement arrives & just do the job properly next weekend.

Indeed, I have a spare 5 litres of oil anyway (best to have loads lying about with a twin spark Alfa, they drink a lot) and a £4.99 plug on order from fleabay

Sounds like a plan forming.

[Kccv23highliftcam]

PAH!

I pour scorn on your sumps!!

This weekend it's going to be Ford BC gearbox draining time with the mighty PELA!!

[Nutrounder151]

I just used one of these tonight on a neighbours astra
The sump plug was chewed up to the point of looking like a tic tack, so I tried one for the first time and recovered roughly just over 4 litres.

[AlmostUseful]

I bought a Lidl extractor pump a few years back and still haven’t used it, my car needed servicing in the middle of winter so I just took it to tha garage.