transit diesel pump ecu.
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I have a 70k 01 transit that's in very good condition. It died and wouldn't start back up. mechanic has told me it needs a new or recon fuel pump. A new one is over £1200 just for the pump not labour. So i am looking at recon but they are still £650 plus labour.I can get a new ecu at £160ISH. But I've been told that it needs programing to the pump its self the remapping to the key, I can't believe that i have to get 4 companies involved in getting my transit back on the road.
I have been told 1 mechanic to remove and replace. 2 supply the new ecu.3 remap the ecu to the pump.4 auto electrician to remap to key when its all been put back together.
Is this correct.
I thought i could put a new ecu on the pump then an auto electrician to map to to my van.
I can/t believe i might have to scrap a near perfect van for the price of a diesel pump.
Please any help would be good.thankyou.
I have been told 1 mechanic to remove and replace. 2 supply the new ecu.3 remap the ecu to the pump.4 auto electrician to remap to key when its all been put back together.
Is this correct.
I thought i could put a new ecu on the pump then an auto electrician to map to to my van.
I can/t believe i might have to scrap a near perfect van for the price of a diesel pump.
Please any help would be good.thankyou.
2001 means your van is likely to be on timed access programming for the pump. If it is the pump that needs replacing only, then a lot of aftermarket diagnostic tools can do this. I am not sure why you want to change the PCM (ECU)? Normally you just fit a new pump, preferably a reconditioned one, then connect the diagnostic tool, switch on the ignition, access the program in the menu, and a 10 minute counter starts running down. After 10 mins follow the screen prompts, basically switch off then on again and wait another 10 mins.
A simple diagnostic tool such as the Sykes Pickavant ACR can do this so someone near you must have one.
You need a battery charger connected or booster pack to maintain battery voltage of 12.6v.
It will be a real pain to get started unless you can pull the fuel through from the tank using a vacuum pump or primer ball.
If the van is in good condition I would get a reconditioned pump from a known supplier.
If your van is the later type (change over around 2002) then it is different. Basically to fit a secondhand pump with ECU will require Ford's tool called IDS and a minimum of 2 keys. Many specialists have the Ford tool so you dont have to go to a dealer.
This is the procedure which i have copied and pasted as it tells you all you need to know:
If its a brand new pump with new or re manufactured ECU unit on it, then it will code itself to the van when fitted. If it isn't all new, then you'll have to get someone to do it for you using Ford IDS software. To self code, you MUST follow the process exactly, as you only get one shot at doing it, if it fails or gets interrupted halfway through the pump will be locked and you'll then have to get it re done by someone with ford IDS software.
To do it correctly, you must make sure your battery is nicely charged, and after fitting pump and plugging it in, you MUST NOT turn on the ignition until you are ready to do the learn process.
Once ready to do it, Turn ignition on to position 2 so all dash lights come on but DO NOT turn it to crank or try and start the van. The imobiliser light should come on and go out after 2-3 seconds as normal. If it flashes the pump is locked and it will not code. If all is ok, Leave ignition on for AT LEAST 90 seconds without touching anything else..a bit longer would be good but no less than that (DO NOT look at coding process on other sites that say 10-30 seconds is enough..it will not work), this allows the pump to shake hands with the vans ECU and correctly transfer all the information from one to the other. After that turn ignition OFF completely, wait 10 seconds then turn on and make sure immobiliser lights then goes out as normal. That is it, it should now allow starting, provided fuel system is all bled correctly.
As for the first process, you must bleed it through or it will never start.
A simple diagnostic tool such as the Sykes Pickavant ACR can do this so someone near you must have one.
You need a battery charger connected or booster pack to maintain battery voltage of 12.6v.
It will be a real pain to get started unless you can pull the fuel through from the tank using a vacuum pump or primer ball.
If the van is in good condition I would get a reconditioned pump from a known supplier.
If your van is the later type (change over around 2002) then it is different. Basically to fit a secondhand pump with ECU will require Ford's tool called IDS and a minimum of 2 keys. Many specialists have the Ford tool so you dont have to go to a dealer.
This is the procedure which i have copied and pasted as it tells you all you need to know:
If its a brand new pump with new or re manufactured ECU unit on it, then it will code itself to the van when fitted. If it isn't all new, then you'll have to get someone to do it for you using Ford IDS software. To self code, you MUST follow the process exactly, as you only get one shot at doing it, if it fails or gets interrupted halfway through the pump will be locked and you'll then have to get it re done by someone with ford IDS software.
To do it correctly, you must make sure your battery is nicely charged, and after fitting pump and plugging it in, you MUST NOT turn on the ignition until you are ready to do the learn process.
Once ready to do it, Turn ignition on to position 2 so all dash lights come on but DO NOT turn it to crank or try and start the van. The imobiliser light should come on and go out after 2-3 seconds as normal. If it flashes the pump is locked and it will not code. If all is ok, Leave ignition on for AT LEAST 90 seconds without touching anything else..a bit longer would be good but no less than that (DO NOT look at coding process on other sites that say 10-30 seconds is enough..it will not work), this allows the pump to shake hands with the vans ECU and correctly transfer all the information from one to the other. After that turn ignition OFF completely, wait 10 seconds then turn on and make sure immobiliser lights then goes out as normal. That is it, it should now allow starting, provided fuel system is all bled correctly.
As for the first process, you must bleed it through or it will never start.
Edited by N7GTX on Wednesday 12th June 23:12
It was just the price of a new or recon pump . The ucu apparently is always the thing that fails and it half the price. Although an new ecu is only £160 but then you still have to have it mapped. I have talked to a few garages about this and have been fed loads of bs. Prices varied so much from £300 to £1500 .
The van is an old one but is in very good condition think it would be a shame to have to scrap it just for a pump.
The van is an old one but is in very good condition think it would be a shame to have to scrap it just for a pump.
Have a look here http://fordtransit.org/forum/index.php?sid=91e53b4...
Lots of info, in general a friendly place but as like most forums some idiots. Register, ask some questions and be prepared give as much info about your van as possible. Good luck !
Lots of info, in general a friendly place but as like most forums some idiots. Register, ask some questions and be prepared give as much info about your van as possible. Good luck !
Hiya,
I have a ford transit 2001. Discovered that the fuel pump is failty(leaking diesel) also oil is mixing with water in the radiator. Need help and advice how to go about the repairs. I want to know if a second hand fuel pump can bought to replace. And what could be the problem with the oil in water?
Thank you all in advance.
I have a ford transit 2001. Discovered that the fuel pump is failty(leaking diesel) also oil is mixing with water in the radiator. Need help and advice how to go about the repairs. I want to know if a second hand fuel pump can bought to replace. And what could be the problem with the oil in water?
Thank you all in advance.
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