17mm sump plug socket -

17mm sump plug socket -

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B'stard Child

28,322 posts

245 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Nobbles said:
I like the idea of the suction thing. I am nervous over using it over traditional methods. Does it work on all engines? It probably is around the same price as a new sump.
A thread discussing it

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

And a thread from many years back where I stated I wasn't a fan and couldn't see the point...... Yeah I changed my mind

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...


226bhp

10,203 posts

127 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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Nobbles said:
These two facts and the problems I am having are starting to 'smell'.
Get a wash.
Like the others have said, you'll have to grind a ring spanner or socket down until it's a good fit, although it's not wasted, you've then created a tool which you can use again in a similar situation. I have a few old tools which have been fashioned to to fit awkward situations like this.
I'm definitely favouring a ring spanner for that job, buy a cheap one for this if yours are part of a decent set.

freddytin

1,184 posts

226 months

Wednesday 24th September 2014
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B'stard Child said:
Nobbles said:
I like the idea of the suction thing. I am nervous over using it over traditional methods. Does it work on all engines? It probably is around the same price as a new sump.
A thread discussing it

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

And a thread from many years back where I stated I wasn't a fan and couldn't see the point...... Yeah I changed my mind

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
I've not contributed to those threads , but I can state that through twenty years of using similar vacuum pumps on a variety of engines and applications that you will achieve perfect, mess free, fully drained oil changes evry time on the Peugeot units....The only possible exceptions would be VW s with the narrow plastic orange upper section on the dipstick tube .

Nobbles

Original Poster:

585 posts

259 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Plan for the weekend - another 17mm rachet spanner that has about 4mm of lip. I will also grind down the original socket because as you correctly say it must have 5mm of chamfer holding it away from the bolt. The sealey vacuum pump does look interesting but if I have to jack up the car and remove the big plastic engine cover underneath to take off the filter it doesn't gain me much.

Collectingbrass

2,198 posts

194 months

Thursday 25th September 2014
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Nobbles said:
Plan for the weekend - another 17mm rachet spanner that has about 4mm of lip. I will also grind down the original socket because as you correctly say it must have 5mm of chamfer holding it away from the bolt. The sealey vacuum pump does look interesting but if I have to jack up the car and remove the big plastic engine cover underneath to take off the filter it doesn't gain me much.
It will gain you that the system will be oil free when you remove the filter, meaning that you won't get that lovely feeling of oil down your forearm and into your arm pit.

It will also mean that you're not running the risk of removing the current bolt to find you've got a bigger job on your hands coming up with a suitable replacement. At the moment you know the sump holds oil, but you dont know why the wrong plug is in the hole. Does it really matter if it's working?

I guess the question you need to ask yourself is whether the job is to change the oil or to get that bd bolt out of its ing hole and I will get the bd thing out if it fking kills me and then I'll change the sodding oil. We've all been there...

kambites

67,461 posts

220 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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Have you tried using an actual impact driver on it? The extra pressure applied by the impact might be enough to overcome the poor fitting.

B'stard Child

28,322 posts

245 months

Friday 26th September 2014
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kambites said:
Have you tried using an actual impact driver on it? The extra pressure applied by the impact might be enough to overcome the poor fitting.
On an alloy sump - I think I'd avoid impact drivers but that's just me

Nobbles

Original Poster:

585 posts

259 months

Sunday 28th September 2014
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All done. So grinding the chamfer off the socket allowed that extra bite. Also the sump plug is aluminum and stupidly I never checked what I bought to service the car. So in fact the new sump plug washer can with a new bolt exactly the same as what I took off, - it is obviously deemed as a consumable item. Even the filter came off without fuss, I hate when garages put them back on and use the socket to tighten it. I have just to check for leaks after a drive but ticking over it was fine. Thanks everybody for your help and advise.

fangio

988 posts

233 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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17mm plug socket?

fangio

988 posts

233 months

Saturday 25th October 2014
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17mm spark plug socket?