Ford Focus MK2 2006 Petrol - Consuming Engine Oil quick
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My car seems to be consuming Engine Oil (5w 30 Semi Synth) quite quick, I topped up exactly a month ago to the Max level. In 1 month it has come to the Min mark.
There are no obvious signs of a leak. I made sure I was on level ground when i checked on both occasions.
Is this amount of oil consumption normal on a 10 year old car (96k)?
My driving is mainly local (less than 10miles a day) 5-6 days a week.
Any help would be much appreciated.
There are no obvious signs of a leak. I made sure I was on level ground when i checked on both occasions.
Is this amount of oil consumption normal on a 10 year old car (96k)?
My driving is mainly local (less than 10miles a day) 5-6 days a week.
Any help would be much appreciated.
How much oil did you put in - 1 litre? that much in 250 miles is high, even on a 100k engine.
The immediate things to check are the crankcase breather and PCV valve. If they're blocked or gunked up it will cause excess crankcase pressure which can force oil up past the piston rings. they're reasonably easy (and cheap!) to check and change on most cars, so it's worth doing.
The immediate things to check are the crankcase breather and PCV valve. If they're blocked or gunked up it will cause excess crankcase pressure which can force oil up past the piston rings. they're reasonably easy (and cheap!) to check and change on most cars, so it's worth doing.
Doing short journeys as you do, does no favours to an engine. It never has chance to get up to temp. The PCV valve is a good place to start, iirc it's a tin can bolted to the rear of the block.
For future reference a zetec should be run on fully synthetic 5/30. Weirdly if I use genuine ford oil in my car, it burns none at all, if I use anything else it uses a bit. It's no dearer than any others if you buy it from the right place. I.E not a ford dealership!
For future reference a zetec should be run on fully synthetic 5/30. Weirdly if I use genuine ford oil in my car, it burns none at all, if I use anything else it uses a bit. It's no dearer than any others if you buy it from the right place. I.E not a ford dealership!
The Mk2 2 Focus is a Duratec, not a Zetec and the PCV is at the front of the block between the inlet manifold and the crankcase.
There are 2 likely causes of your problem:-
PCV failed and is allowing oil to be pulled from the crankcase into the manifold. The manifold has long runners which join together in a small box shaped section low down at the front of the engine. This is probably full of oil on your car and the manifold will need removing to empty it.
If yours is the 1.8 Duratec the oil control rings on these have a tendency of becoming stuck in their grooves. Consequence is obvious but more difficult to fix.
If I were in your position (and I have been previously) I would remove the inlet manifold, empty it and blank off the PCV (easy once inlet removed). If the fault goes away replace the valve, if not it's a bigger decision. I took the pistons out with the engine in the car to replace the rings as the PCV valve was not the issue on mine.
There are 2 likely causes of your problem:-
PCV failed and is allowing oil to be pulled from the crankcase into the manifold. The manifold has long runners which join together in a small box shaped section low down at the front of the engine. This is probably full of oil on your car and the manifold will need removing to empty it.
If yours is the 1.8 Duratec the oil control rings on these have a tendency of becoming stuck in their grooves. Consequence is obvious but more difficult to fix.
If I were in your position (and I have been previously) I would remove the inlet manifold, empty it and blank off the PCV (easy once inlet removed). If the fault goes away replace the valve, if not it's a bigger decision. I took the pistons out with the engine in the car to replace the rings as the PCV valve was not the issue on mine.
Garybee said:
The Mk2 2 Focus is a Duratec, not a Zetec and the PCV is at the front of the block between the inlet manifold and the crankcase.
There are 2 likely causes of your problem:-
PCV failed and is allowing oil to be pulled from the crankcase into the manifold. The manifold has long runners which join together in a small box shaped section low down at the front of the engine. This is probably full of oil on your car and the manifold will need removing to empty it.
If yours is the 1.8 Duratec the oil control rings on these have a tendency of becoming stuck in their grooves. Consequence is obvious but more difficult to fix.
If I were in your position (and I have been previously) I would remove the inlet manifold, empty it and blank off the PCV (easy once inlet removed). If the fault goes away replace the valve, if not it's a bigger decision. I took the pistons out with the engine in the car to replace the rings as the PCV valve was not the issue on mine.
Thanks, it's a 1.6 engine. Is this an easy enough job to do for a beginner like myself? If so could you forward any video links that would help.There are 2 likely causes of your problem:-
PCV failed and is allowing oil to be pulled from the crankcase into the manifold. The manifold has long runners which join together in a small box shaped section low down at the front of the engine. This is probably full of oil on your car and the manifold will need removing to empty it.
If yours is the 1.8 Duratec the oil control rings on these have a tendency of becoming stuck in their grooves. Consequence is obvious but more difficult to fix.
If I were in your position (and I have been previously) I would remove the inlet manifold, empty it and blank off the PCV (easy once inlet removed). If the fault goes away replace the valve, if not it's a bigger decision. I took the pistons out with the engine in the car to replace the rings as the PCV valve was not the issue on mine.
Also, what do you mean by 'blank off the PCV'?
In that case you have a Sigma. I'm not as knowledgeable on the Sigma as I am the Duratec but I am not aware of it having an issue with the oil control rings so don't worry about that.
Blanking off the PVC system to rule it out would still be my 1st action. By 'blank off' I mean disconnecting the hose/tube etc. that connects the crank case to the inlet and plugging the open ends.
Blanking off the PVC system to rule it out would still be my 1st action. By 'blank off' I mean disconnecting the hose/tube etc. that connects the crank case to the inlet and plugging the open ends.
I had all the symptoms of pcv valve issue on a duratec he, it is hundreds of quid to have intake manifold removed in labour alone to get to it. Garage put some oil additive in to see if it freed anything up, 15 quid retail for a small tin, and today it did 220 miles without using any oil and even the engine warning light that had been on for ages went out, they had said that was due to the exhaust return valve. Early days, but mine was using a litre in 200 miles last week! Might be wortha try if it is a stuck scraper ring or something
enzo88 said:
Thanks, does one simply pour this BGMOA into the same hole as the engine oil?
Or is this one for a mechanic?
Also, it's a Zetec that I have (to those who suggested it was a Duratec earlier) or atleast it says so at the rear of the car.
That Zetec is simply a trim level, there is also a Zetec engine, variants of which are Sigma, Duratec, etc.Or is this one for a mechanic?
Also, it's a Zetec that I have (to those who suggested it was a Duratec earlier) or atleast it says so at the rear of the car.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Zetec_engine
Zetec is an engine type as well as a trim level. The badge on the back refers to a trim level, a different engine type may be fitted.
Also, judging by your responses and estimating your degree of technical knowledge, you do not want to be attempting to remove an inlet manifold from any car just yet.
Also, judging by your responses and estimating your degree of technical knowledge, you do not want to be attempting to remove an inlet manifold from any car just yet.
BG MOA goes in with the engine oil.
If you have stuck bits in the engine, it might be worth getting the flush done with their product first (it cleans all the crap out) and then when refilled, use the MOA.
There are other products around but a search on the internet reveals many of them have been found to do nothing, or worse, but BG seems to get rave reviews everywhere. As an update I am up to 300 miles since the MOA and oil level has dropped by 3mm, so that is probably about 200ml of oil maybe. Will top up, keeping a note of how much I add and then total it up after 1000 miles. If it has made a marked difference (and it seems it has) I think I will get the full flush and refill done, together with the fuel additive that helps clean the valves etc.
Garages are the only places that stock it (some might sell it on ebay but don't think they are supposed to) so you need to trust the garage to actually use it and not just say they will and take the money (think a full treatment during oil change is about £160, so it isn't cheap, but then again most garages charge you silly amount for a new filter and oil change anyway.
If you have stuck bits in the engine, it might be worth getting the flush done with their product first (it cleans all the crap out) and then when refilled, use the MOA.
There are other products around but a search on the internet reveals many of them have been found to do nothing, or worse, but BG seems to get rave reviews everywhere. As an update I am up to 300 miles since the MOA and oil level has dropped by 3mm, so that is probably about 200ml of oil maybe. Will top up, keeping a note of how much I add and then total it up after 1000 miles. If it has made a marked difference (and it seems it has) I think I will get the full flush and refill done, together with the fuel additive that helps clean the valves etc.
Garages are the only places that stock it (some might sell it on ebay but don't think they are supposed to) so you need to trust the garage to actually use it and not just say they will and take the money (think a full treatment during oil change is about £160, so it isn't cheap, but then again most garages charge you silly amount for a new filter and oil change anyway.
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