Wheel gone backwards and steering bent
Discussion
Hi All,
I hit the kerb which crack the alloy and bent it inwards, since then i have replaced the Rim, Wishbone and hub which resolved the rim from being inwards.
But the steering wheel is still bent, sitting at 2 o clock when driving straight and the wheel has a larger gap at the front looks like something has been pushed backwards after the hit as shown below image:
http://pho.to/ALKTH
Can anyone think what other part needs replacing? to fix the steering issue: could the suspension have gone bent?
I hit the kerb which crack the alloy and bent it inwards, since then i have replaced the Rim, Wishbone and hub which resolved the rim from being inwards.
But the steering wheel is still bent, sitting at 2 o clock when driving straight and the wheel has a larger gap at the front looks like something has been pushed backwards after the hit as shown below image:
http://pho.to/ALKTH
Can anyone think what other part needs replacing? to fix the steering issue: could the suspension have gone bent?
Sounds like you gave it a fair whack, so you certainly could have bent something else. A steering arm maybe, or even moved the rack out of place. But then if the wishbone's been replaced, it could just need the tracking adjusted. I'd get an alignment check done, they should be able to see what the problem is.
DebbieChandler said:
Ok, so no point replacing the suspension leg yet? or Shoker?
Because theres a guy breaking a Type R and he said he can fit the leg today?
What you reckon.
No point spending any more money on parts until you've had a full alignment check done.Because theres a guy breaking a Type R and he said he can fit the leg today?
What you reckon.
Also measure front wheel centre to rear wheel centre on both sides of the car. There should be no difference between the sides. If it's less on the side that was hit & you've replaced the wishbone - was that bent BTW? - then there may be damage to the wishbone mounting points, the suspension leg or the suspension leg mounting points on the shell.
It was a bent subframe, noticed this after putting it on the ramp, got it replaced yesterday its not pulling to any side now, steering wheel is straight.
Lucky was not the steering-rack.
I think the wheel might still be a few mill to the left, but will that be an issue?
Not causing any vibration or anything
Going to do 2-wheel alignment today.
Lucky was not the steering-rack.
I think the wheel might still be a few mill to the left, but will that be an issue?
Not causing any vibration or anything
Going to do 2-wheel alignment today.
paintman said:
No point spending any more money on parts until you've had a full alignment check done.
Also measure front wheel centre to rear wheel centre on both sides of the car. There should be no difference between the sides. If it's less on the side that was hit & you've replaced the wishbone - was that bent BTW? - then there may be damage to the wishbone mounting points, the suspension leg or the suspension leg mounting points on the shell.
The wishbone wasn't bent.Also measure front wheel centre to rear wheel centre on both sides of the car. There should be no difference between the sides. If it's less on the side that was hit & you've replaced the wishbone - was that bent BTW? - then there may be damage to the wishbone mounting points, the suspension leg or the suspension leg mounting points on the shell.
Can the guys doing the alignment check the front wheel centre to rear wheel centre on both sides of the car?
After subframe replacement its 90% better just a few mill diff now, can i leave it or will it cause uneven wear?
- Bump.
Now have replaced:
1. Subframe
2. Suspension Leg
3. Wishbone
4. Hub
5. Alloy
But over rough roads and when braking sometimes it goes towards the right and feels loose a bit when doing so i.e. for that little bit it goes to the right very easiy.
What else can it be now?
DebbieChandler said:
**Bump.
After 600yards straight it then still bears to the right.
Now have replaced:
1. Subframe
2. Suspension Leg
3. Wishbone
4. Hub
5. Alloy
But over rough roads and when braking sometimes it goes towards the right and feels loose a bit when doing so i.e. for that little bit it goes to the right very easiy.
What else can it be now?
What did the suspension geometry check / adjust reveal? Did you get a print out? After 600yards straight it then still bears to the right.
Now have replaced:
1. Subframe
2. Suspension Leg
3. Wishbone
4. Hub
5. Alloy
But over rough roads and when braking sometimes it goes towards the right and feels loose a bit when doing so i.e. for that little bit it goes to the right very easiy.
What else can it be now?
If you've bent the subframe, you've almost certainly bent the car, are the subframe mounts fixed or are they adjustable?
Usually subframe replacement requires specialist alignment tools, thats before you start sticking bits of suspension back on or test driving!
get the subframe straight first, then fit suspension and do full four wheel aligment!
what on earth did you hit to bend a SUBFRAME??
Usually subframe replacement requires specialist alignment tools, thats before you start sticking bits of suspension back on or test driving!
get the subframe straight first, then fit suspension and do full four wheel aligment!
what on earth did you hit to bend a SUBFRAME??
The subframe has been replaced allready.
I dont know if it has mounts or not, we took it out and put a new one in and it fitted so cant be mounts otherwise it wouldn't have gone in so easily only the corner of the frame was creased.
I have dont the Geometry and it has come back with:
Front Setback is 9mm:
http://pasteboard.co/avfP4dzag.jpg
Does any one have a clue.
I dont know if it has mounts or not, we took it out and put a new one in and it fitted so cant be mounts otherwise it wouldn't have gone in so easily only the corner of the frame was creased.
I have dont the Geometry and it has come back with:
Front Setback is 9mm:
http://pasteboard.co/avfP4dzag.jpg
Does any one have a clue.
Edited by DebbieChandler on Monday 3rd October 18:15
DebbieChandler said:
The subframe has been replaced allready.
I dont know if it has mounts or not, we took it out and put a new one in and it fitted so cant be mounts otherwise it wouldn't have gone in so easily only the corner of the frame was creased.
I have dont the Geometry and it has come back with:
Front Setback is 9mm:
http://pasteboard.co/avfP4dzag.jpg
Does any one have a clue.
just because you can tighten up the bolts doesn't mean it's fitted correctly.I dont know if it has mounts or not, we took it out and put a new one in and it fitted so cant be mounts otherwise it wouldn't have gone in so easily only the corner of the frame was creased.
I have dont the Geometry and it has come back with:
Front Setback is 9mm:
http://pasteboard.co/avfP4dzag.jpg
Does any one have a clue.
Edited by DebbieChandler on Monday 3rd October 18:15
It will have mounts (this is what holds it to the car) but you need to set them correctly.
The subframe is not just a bolt off/bolt on part, it requires aligning, with the greatest of respect, you or whoever is doing the work for you clearly doesn't know what they are doing.
You need to get someone who knows what they are doing to remove, align and re-fit the subframe, then check the subframe geometry against the car body shell, this needs to be done BEFORE you even think about refitting suspension, wheels etc and doing wheel alignment checks.
just because the bolts fit into the mounts DOES NOT MEAN it is fitted, if the bolts went into the holes "easily" then they are almost certainly floating mounts so as above, you need to get someone who knows what they are doing to fit the subframe properly.
I assume you have also replaced the wishbones and suspension arms or had them checked?
Basically you need to get help from a professional, what they will charge to fix it will be less than trying to do it yourself, this may not be what you want to hear, but I cannot emphasise enough how safety critical the work you are doing is, and how important it is that it is done correctly, given what you are saying, this clearly hasn't been the case so far!
Petrolhead_Rich said:
just because you can tighten up the bolts doesn't mean it's fitted correctly.
It will have mounts (this is what holds it to the car) but you need to set them correctly.
The subframe is not just a bolt off/bolt on part, it requires aligning, with the greatest of respect, you or whoever is doing the work for you clearly doesn't know what they are doing.
You need to get someone who knows what they are doing to remove, align and re-fit the subframe, then check the subframe geometry against the car body shell, this needs to be done BEFORE you even think about refitting suspension, wheels etc and doing wheel alignment checks.
just because the bolts fit into the mounts DOES NOT MEAN it is fitted, if the bolts went into the holes "easily" then they are almost certainly floating mounts so as above, you need to get someone who knows what they are doing to fit the subframe properly.
I assd them chume you have also replaced the wishbones and suspension arms or haecked?
Basically you need to get help from a professional, what they will charge to fix it will be less than trying to do it yourself, this may not be what you want to hear, but I cannot emphasise enough how safety critical the work you are doing is, and how important it is that it is done correctly, given what you are saying, this clearly hasn't been the case so far!
I have replaced the wishbones and suspension arms.It will have mounts (this is what holds it to the car) but you need to set them correctly.
The subframe is not just a bolt off/bolt on part, it requires aligning, with the greatest of respect, you or whoever is doing the work for you clearly doesn't know what they are doing.
You need to get someone who knows what they are doing to remove, align and re-fit the subframe, then check the subframe geometry against the car body shell, this needs to be done BEFORE you even think about refitting suspension, wheels etc and doing wheel alignment checks.
just because the bolts fit into the mounts DOES NOT MEAN it is fitted, if the bolts went into the holes "easily" then they are almost certainly floating mounts so as above, you need to get someone who knows what they are doing to fit the subframe properly.
I assd them chume you have also replaced the wishbones and suspension arms or haecked?
Basically you need to get help from a professional, what they will charge to fix it will be less than trying to do it yourself, this may not be what you want to hear, but I cannot emphasise enough how safety critical the work you are doing is, and how important it is that it is done correctly, given what you are saying, this clearly hasn't been the case so far!
Ok. do you suggest to fit some rigid collars in to support the subframe alignment from the likes of Tegiwa? as will tighten up and loose ends etc..? and then if still bent will be something else?
DebbieChandler said:
I have replaced the wishbones and suspension arms.
Ok. do you suggest to fit some rigid collars in to support the subframe alignment from the likes of Tegiwa? as will tighten up and loose ends etc..? and then if still bent will be something else?
No, he very clearly suggested getting someone who knows what they are doing, with the correct equipment, to do it.Ok. do you suggest to fit some rigid collars in to support the subframe alignment from the likes of Tegiwa? as will tighten up and loose ends etc..? and then if still bent will be something else?
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