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Mr Dave

3,227 posts

78 months

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GreigM said:
Tallbut Buxomly said:
Its easy to get that upset when you do 50-100k miles a year and have to put up with that kind of stupidity day after day.
If he can't control it better than that he shouldn't be behind the wheel of an HGV
So you arent allowed to say what you think anymore? Is he offending anyone? Is he doing any harm? Then whats the problem. "Oh he videos himself shouting at idiots, wont somebody think of the children?"

Hes probably playing it up for the camera, as me and my mate do when we are on a long day in the van as it makes each other laugh. We would be far far worse if there was a camera.

rodgerramjet

680 posts

101 months

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Pretty sure he's in the correct lane for where he intends on travelling in the Weetwood video.

It looks like a confusing lane structure though, the lane he is in for turning right splits into two, then three straight after the M1 exit. The minibus driver is in the lane (acotding to road markings) for M1, yet wants to go A647, which according to the road markings, means he should have been in the lane the angry truck driver was in.

Open to discussion and/or correction of course! Anyone have local knowledge?

carreauchompeur

12,563 posts

87 months

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Regardless of the lanes, he deliberately courts confrontation, he can see what's happening from miles off. I bet he's got a high-viz jacket on his parcel shelf. Twonk.

saaby93

12,841 posts

61 months

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rodgerramjet said:
Pretty sure he's in the correct lane for where he intends on travelling in the Weetwood video.

It looks like a confusing lane structure though, the lane he is in for turning right splits into two, then three straight after the M1 exit. The minibus driver is in the lane (acotding to road markings) for M1, yet wants to go A647, which according to the road markings, means he should have been in the lane the angry truck driver was in.
Not convinced - the minibus seems to travel from one marked lane to the next in sequence, as the truck darts across from lane 3 to lane 1.
But that could be due to the signs wink

rodgerramjet

680 posts

101 months

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saaby93 said:
rodgerramjet said:
Pretty sure he's in the correct lane for where he intends on travelling in the Weetwood video.

It looks like a confusing lane structure though, the lane he is in for turning right splits into two, then three straight after the M1 exit. The minibus driver is in the lane (according to road markings) for M1, yet wants to go A647, which according to the road markings, means he should have been in the lane the angry truck driver was in.
Not convinced - the minibus seems to travel from one marked lane to the next in sequence, as the truck darts across from lane 3 to lane 1.
But that could be due to the signs wink
Watch the flow of the traffic in front of the minibus (silver hatch, motorbike etc). It all takes the exit for the M1 wink

If the minibus wasn't trying to go from his lane into the lane the truck is in, the truck would have stayed left when his 'turn right' lane split into two. Then, immediately after the M1 exit, he'd have moved into the far left lane at the traffic lights, which is where he ended up. I think he only makes the move across three lanes at once because the minibus was impeding his intended correct move. Perhaps going round the entire system again to avoid the confrontation in the first place would have been more sensible? tongue out

All IMO of course!

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carreauchompeur

12,563 posts

87 months

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Weapons grade stroker.

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Chainguy

2,833 posts

83 months

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Serious anger issues combined with, buy the looks of his scribblings on the you tube descriptions, a major chip on his shoulder towards anyone and everyone who he deems to have 'done better' than him. Everything he writes is bile filled hatred. He has the language skills of a tourettes suffering teenager, and yet seems to think he is in the right, every time. No doubt about everything in life though, not just driving. I also get very suspicious of anyone over the age of 18 who actually writes 'lol'. Thank God I don't have him for a next door neighbour.

This guy is actively courting confrontation in some of those videos, he's seems to be looking for a reason to get shouty and sweary and throw his yorkie bar out of the pram. Yes there is some poor driving, but he's not lilly white himself and he seems incapable of realising that people make mistakes. Thats life, deal with it. If you can't, get another job where you don't have to interact with fallable human beings.

Interesting to see he works for Stobarts. I guess their driver standards have slipped lately, although as one of their guys nearly broadsided me on the motorway last month when he realised he was in the wrong lane (full on emergency stop) when he swerved in without even a blink of the indicator, I've had that suspicion for a while.

There are some great guys out there driving HGV's, this chap isn't one of them.

saaby93

12,841 posts

61 months

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rodgerramjet said:
Watch the flow of the traffic in front of the minibus (silver hatch, motorbike etc). It all takes the exit for the M1 wink
I see what you mean
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3Og5yv2cOQ
from 1:20
I reckon the minibus had a choice of two lanes there (the other being off down the motorway) and for the next section would have been in lane 1 with the truck in lane 2.
Does laning a roundabout makes it worse?
Lane 1 seems to appear from nowhere

ETA comments http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=L3Og5yv2cOQ


Edited by saaby93 on Saturday 25th June 17:57

Chicane-UK

3,419 posts

68 months

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What a complete tw@t!! Has Roy Chubby Brown taken up lorry driving in his spare time?!

rodgerramjet

680 posts

101 months

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saaby93 said:
rodgerramjet said:
Watch the flow of the traffic in front of the minibus (silver hatch, motorbike etc). It all takes the exit for the M1 wink
I see what you mean
http://www.youtube.com/user/RoadkilIerCop#p/u/5/L3...
from 1:20
I reckon the minibus had a choice of two lanes there (the other being off down the motorway) and for the next section would have been in lane 1 with the truck in lane 2.
Does laning a roundabout makes it worse?
I'm not condoning his verbal or mental reactions, or his course of direction when a physical incident could have been a possible outcome. And he does seem like a bit of a nugget tbh ("StoWbarts", "HMP"??!!). The lanes and markings do seem a bit confuddling too, I'm not sure I'd be in the correct lane if it was the first time I'd been on that roundabout.

But still, I think some people on here have been quick to slate him when was effectively in the correct lane for his intended travel.

sim16v

750 posts

84 months

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rodgerramjet said:
saaby93 said:
rodgerramjet said:
Watch the flow of the traffic in front of the minibus (silver hatch, motorbike etc). It all takes the exit for the M1 wink
I see what you mean
http://www.youtube.com/user/RoadkilIerCop#p/u/5/L3...
from 1:20
I reckon the minibus had a choice of two lanes there (the other being off down the motorway) and for the next section would have been in lane 1 with the truck in lane 2.
Does laning a roundabout makes it worse?
I'm not condoning his verbal or mental reactions, or his course of direction when a physical incident could have been a possible outcome. And he does seem like a bit of a nugget tbh ("StoWbarts", "HMP"??!!). The lanes and markings do seem a bit confuddling too, I'm not sure I'd be in the correct lane if it was the first time I'd been on that roundabout.

But still, I think some people on here have been quick to slate him when was effectively in the correct lane for his intended travel.
The minibus doesn't actually change lane, there is always a broken white line to his left.

The silver car in front pulls away from the lane the mini bus is in.


The wagon driver looks for confrontation, whereas people drive like that all the time.

Life is too short to get as wound up as he does!

johnpeat

4,162 posts

148 months

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Given that too many truck drivers already see themselves as some sort of traffic control authority, this isn't really surprising...

The classic one - of traffic approaching a lane-reduction with truck drivers straddling the line to stop people using the outside lane - boils my piss immensely. I'd like to see them get a "driving without due care and attention" every time they do it - it's not-far-short of dangerous and I've no idea what gives them the idea it's their role to do it.

Just because they spend more time on the roads than most other people does NOT entitle them to endanger people's safety and/or make up their own rules - basically, they're taking-the-piss and need slapping-down a bit.

saaby93

12,841 posts

61 months

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sim16v said:
The minibus doesn't actually change lane, there is always a broken white line to his left.
The silver car in front pulls away from the lane the mini bus is in.
Youre right.
If the truck hadnt tried to overtake the minibus or even followed it, there'd have been no issue

Red 5

44 posts

63 months

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saaby93 said:
oure right.
If the truck hadnt tried to overtake the minibus or even followed it, there'd have been no issue
That's what I was saying.
His failed overtake was performed in the right hand, third exit only lane!
He wanted to take the second exit straight on though, and as such should have been following the mini-bus.
Instead, he got along side, then knowing it was there, moved across 3 lanes.
He forced the mini-bus to brake and no doubt, the traffic following too.

If you're going straight on (2nd exi)t, you take the left or centre lanes here.
He was straight lining the RA and looking for a fight!
Spac-tard, thick as a whale omelette!


rodgerramjet

680 posts

101 months

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Go on Google maps and have a look at the road markings. The minibus driver's lane looks like it just disappears, but according to the arrows and the road numbers, he should have followed the traffic in front of him as the only possible route from the lane in which he was in.

The 'turn right only' lane, that the truck is in, opens and splits into two lanes. This is where the minibus driver thinks the left of these lanes is the lane he is following, when, in fact, his lane has carried on to veer to the left exit.

It's a strange and unusual layout IMO. As I said previously I don't think I'd get it right faced with it for the first time and I don't think I'd be alone, but the reaction from the truck driver is poor to say the least. He had the chance to take evasive but chose to be aggressive instead.

Tallbut Buxomly

12,254 posts

99 months

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rodgerramjet said:
Watch the flow of the traffic in front of the minibus (silver hatch, motorbike etc). It all takes the exit for the M1 wink

If the minibus wasn't trying to go from his lane into the lane the truck is in, the truck would have stayed left when his 'turn right' lane split into two. Then, immediately after the M1 exit, he'd have moved into the far left lane at the traffic lights, which is where he ended up. I think he only makes the move across three lanes at once because the minibus was impeding his intended correct move. Perhaps going round the entire system again to avoid the confrontation in the first place would have been more sensible? tongue out

All IMO of course!
All well and good and reasonable you would think but he is going to be on a schedule. If he was to go round or sit and wait patiently every time some numpty who cant drive does something he would never get his work done and be unemployed.

Believe me i used to try this. I used to follow every rule inc not passing on the inside which is the biggest problem for me.
I worked out at one point i was losing an hr a day being patient. Hard to believ emaybe but true.

For ex last week i did the whole length of the m26 at 55mph which i would normally do at speeds way way above that due to trucks racing each other and causing a huge queue as far as could be seen behind me.
That section alone cost me most likely something like 3-5mins i then ended up stuck on the m25 at between 55-60 ish mph yet again due to people using the wrong lanes and driving veeery slowly for a few junctions losing me at least another 10-15mins over 3-4 jcts.

That was on the way to my first customer of the day. +- 20mins of my day lost purely down to inconsiderate and bad driving over around 80 miles. Multiply that for 300 miles a day 5 days a week....

Patience soon runs out and now i have no issues passing on the inside. I am breaking the law purely due to other inconsiderate motorists breaking the law by not observing lane discipline and showing any courtesy to fellow road users.

John Laverick

1,362 posts

97 months

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I travel around this gyratory every day ... the truck was in the correct lane the mini-bus wasn't. He's still an arse though.

fwaggie

1,386 posts

83 months

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What a complete arse.

Couldn't resist posting a couple of comments.

fwaggie

1,386 posts

83 months

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John Laverick said:
I travel around this gyratory every day ... the truck was in the correct lane the mini-bus wasn't. He's still an arse though.
But the truck changed lanes to the left (cutting the MB up) and then moved into a new left lane.

If he had waited behind the MB he would have been able to make one left lane change (where a left hand lane forms) and not cut anyone up.

The MB carries on in a single lane as indicated by the lane markings?

XDA

1,979 posts

68 months

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johnpeat said:
Given that too many truck drivers already see themselves as some sort of traffic control authority, this isn't really surprising...

The classic one - of traffic approaching a lane-reduction with truck drivers straddling the line to stop people using the outside lane - boils my piss immensely. I'd like to see them get a "driving without due care and attention" every time they do it - it's not-far-short of dangerous and I've no idea what gives them the idea it's their role to do it.

Just because they spend more time on the roads than most other people does NOT entitle them to endanger people's safety and/or make up their own rules - basically, they're taking-the-piss and need slapping-down a bit.
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