so who's done this CPC rubbish then?...
Discussion
R0G said:
lgw said:
If you work in the Truck repair trade and only use your LGV for road tests and taking vehicles for test you don't need the DCPC either
1st bit correct but not the secondMechanics taking LGVs for MOT etc do need DCPC - there is not an exemption for that
this has been confirmed by the DSA dcpc section and VOLVO/MERC who are acreditted dcpc providers and also have mechanics
Apparently the thinking that convinced the DSA was -
The same job can be done by a LGV driver and a LGV driver/mechanic
Whereas the road testing can only be done by a qualified mechanic to accertain if there are any mechanical faults
Edited by R0G on Friday 30th March 18:28
I have just received a reply from VOSA reference Fitters/Mechanics driving HGV's to test
As long as they do not drive as part of their daily work they can drive HGV's to test centres for annual testing without a DCPC
The Vehicle Drivers (Certificate of Professional Competence) Regulations 2007, Article 3 (2)(c) mentions 'repair or maintenance' purposes.
The interpretation is that taking the vehicle to test would be part of this repair and maintenance.
I did ask the DSA first but as VOSA polices the DCPC they refer it to them, I would update Volvo/Merc if I was you for misleading information
Edited by lgw on Monday 28th May 14:30
Edited by lgw on Monday 28th May 14:31
lgw said:
It seems I was right ROG,
I have just received a reply from VOSA reference Fitters/Mechanics driving HGV's to test
As long as they do not drive as part of their daily work they can drive HGV's to test centres for annual testing without a DCPC
The Vehicle Drivers (Certificate of Professional Competence) Regulations 2007, Article 3 (2)(c) mentions 'repair or maintenance' purposes.
The interpretation is that taking the vehicle to test would be part of this repair and maintenance.
I did ask the DSA first but as VOSA polices the DCPC they refer it to them, I would update Volvo/Merc if I was you for misleading information
The DSA have now stated that they did not have a meeting with these two companies but the two companies are adamant that meetings took place - you decide who is telling porkies - 2 seperate individual companies or the DSA ......... ?I have just received a reply from VOSA reference Fitters/Mechanics driving HGV's to test
As long as they do not drive as part of their daily work they can drive HGV's to test centres for annual testing without a DCPC
The Vehicle Drivers (Certificate of Professional Competence) Regulations 2007, Article 3 (2)(c) mentions 'repair or maintenance' purposes.
The interpretation is that taking the vehicle to test would be part of this repair and maintenance.
I did ask the DSA first but as VOSA polices the DCPC they refer it to them, I would update Volvo/Merc if I was you for misleading information
The DSA are now stating what you have quoted
I do wish the DSA would put this on the internet
I have emailed the DfT in order to get a definitive but that was 2 weeks ago and am still awaiting an answer
My place of work is hell bent on timing the CPC right up until the last call.
Done 2 modules so far.
Module 1 was yawn material and death by slides/computer projected images/text.
Module 2 was a 70/30,70% boring 30% interesting.That module included driving tired as we had an agency driver killed last year in one of our motors early hours.Pretty bad smash tbh nothing left of the cab,went from 48 ish mph in roadworks to zero in less than a second.Then went onto driver behaviour when tired and the warning signs etc(know them anyway doing permy nights)
Next module is based more on driving and you have to do a running commentary drive too.
Module 4 no idea.
I'm aiming to get off the road these days anyway and do more shunting and Terberg work.
I'll still need the DCPC to do that but I'm winding down my days/nights down the road now.
Had 2 slipped discs in the past and god knows how many physio and osteopath sessions,sitting on my arse all night behind the wheel is no good for me now,start seizing up.Your discs compress when sat down for hours and thats no good for me anymore,they are damaging my nerves with the compression.
Been on shunting in a unit for the last 4 weeks and my back has never felt better,keeping active at work.
I'll be knocking on the trainers door next week to get me signed off on Terbergs so I can cover on those too.
Then when a slot opens up move onto terbergs and shunting with units on a permanent basis.
Semi perm atm.
Done 2 modules so far.
Module 1 was yawn material and death by slides/computer projected images/text.
Module 2 was a 70/30,70% boring 30% interesting.That module included driving tired as we had an agency driver killed last year in one of our motors early hours.Pretty bad smash tbh nothing left of the cab,went from 48 ish mph in roadworks to zero in less than a second.Then went onto driver behaviour when tired and the warning signs etc(know them anyway doing permy nights)
Next module is based more on driving and you have to do a running commentary drive too.
Module 4 no idea.
I'm aiming to get off the road these days anyway and do more shunting and Terberg work.
I'll still need the DCPC to do that but I'm winding down my days/nights down the road now.
Had 2 slipped discs in the past and god knows how many physio and osteopath sessions,sitting on my arse all night behind the wheel is no good for me now,start seizing up.Your discs compress when sat down for hours and thats no good for me anymore,they are damaging my nerves with the compression.
Been on shunting in a unit for the last 4 weeks and my back has never felt better,keeping active at work.
I'll be knocking on the trainers door next week to get me signed off on Terbergs so I can cover on those too.
Then when a slot opens up move onto terbergs and shunting with units on a permanent basis.
Semi perm atm.
Panda76 said:
Next module is based more on driving and you have to do a running commentary drive too
That'll be expensive either for the driver or the company depending who is payingcommentary driving is an art in itself with many doing (and saying) all sorts of weird things when they first try it !!
cossy400 said:
R0G said:
car crazy said:
Doing it a bit at a time done 21 hours (3 Saturdays) got 14 hours to do
Did you do the legal thing and record it as other work?R0G said:
car crazy said:
Doing it a bit at a time done 21 hours (3 Saturdays) got 14 hours to do
Did you do the legal thing and record it as other work?My company will put me through in working time, no problem, they pay for medicals, tacho cards, only thing is itll be last minute squeezing it in cos thats the usual. They have the organisational capabilities of a piece of chewing gum.
Thats why i,m sitting having my break in Harthill Services empty, cos I went to Armadale to collect a load that isnt ready, it wasnt scheduled till tomorrow.
Thats why i,m sitting having my break in Harthill Services empty, cos I went to Armadale to collect a load that isnt ready, it wasnt scheduled till tomorrow.
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