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R0G

3,863 posts

38 months

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Thursday 24th May 2012 quote quote all
zip929 said:
What a lod of crap this cpc is.
Anyone have any recommendations for training in the Kent area?
Anyone have any recommendations for CHEAP DCPC training in the Kent area?

Better?

zip929

646 posts

60 months

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Thursday 24th May 2012 quote quote all
R0G said:
Anyone have any recommendations for CHEAP DCPC training in the Kent area?

Better?
Yes, the nail on the head.

lgw

305 posts

93 months

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Monday 28th May 2012 quote quote all
R0G said:
lgw said:
If you work in the Truck repair trade and only use your LGV for road tests and taking vehicles for test you don't need the DCPC either
1st bit correct but not the second
Mechanics taking LGVs for MOT etc do need DCPC - there is not an exemption for that

this has been confirmed by the DSA dcpc section and VOLVO/MERC who are acreditted dcpc providers and also have mechanics

Apparently the thinking that convinced the DSA was -
The same job can be done by a LGV driver and a LGV driver/mechanic
Whereas the road testing can only be done by a qualified mechanic to accertain if there are any mechanical faults

Edited by R0G on Friday 30th March 18:28
It seems I was right ROG,
I have just received a reply from VOSA reference Fitters/Mechanics driving HGV's to test

As long as they do not drive as part of their daily work they can drive HGV's to test centres for annual testing without a DCPC

The Vehicle Drivers (Certificate of Professional Competence) Regulations 2007, Article 3 (2)(c) mentions 'repair or maintenance' purposes.

The interpretation is that taking the vehicle to test would be part of this repair and maintenance.

I did ask the DSA first but as VOSA polices the DCPC they refer it to them, I would update Volvo/Merc if I was you for misleading information





Edited by lgw on Monday 28th May 14:30


Edited by lgw on Monday 28th May 14:31

R0G

3,863 posts

38 months

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Monday 28th May 2012 quote quote all
lgw said:
It seems I was right ROG,
I have just received a reply from VOSA reference Fitters/Mechanics driving HGV's to test

As long as they do not drive as part of their daily work they can drive HGV's to test centres for annual testing without a DCPC

The Vehicle Drivers (Certificate of Professional Competence) Regulations 2007, Article 3 (2)(c) mentions 'repair or maintenance' purposes.

The interpretation is that taking the vehicle to test would be part of this repair and maintenance.

I did ask the DSA first but as VOSA polices the DCPC they refer it to them, I would update Volvo/Merc if I was you for misleading information
The DSA have now stated that they did not have a meeting with these two companies but the two companies are adamant that meetings took place - you decide who is telling porkies - 2 seperate individual companies or the DSA ......... ?

The DSA are now stating what you have quoted

I do wish the DSA would put this on the internet

I have emailed the DfT in order to get a definitive but that was 2 weeks ago and am still awaiting an answer


General Price

1,430 posts

66 months

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Wednesday 6th June 2012 quote quote all
Did 2 modules on Monday,Manual lifting and walk round checks.Double time and a day in lieu,bring it on.biggrin

It is completely mind numbing though.
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lgw

305 posts

93 months

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Thursday 7th June 2012 quote quote all
I am doing 2 days next week, Wednesday and Thursday will be long and boring days but easy hours, doing another 2 days in July so that will be my 5 days done then thumbup

Panda76

1,372 posts

33 months

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Friday 8th June 2012 quote quote all
My place of work is hell bent on timing the CPC right up until the last call.
Done 2 modules so far.
Module 1 was yawn material and death by slides/computer projected images/text.
Module 2 was a 70/30,70% boring 30% interesting.That module included driving tired as we had an agency driver killed last year in one of our motors early hours.Pretty bad smash tbh nothing left of the cab,went from 48 ish mph in roadworks to zero in less than a second.Then went onto driver behaviour when tired and the warning signs etc(know them anyway doing permy nights)
Next module is based more on driving and you have to do a running commentary drive too.
Module 4 no idea.
I'm aiming to get off the road these days anyway and do more shunting and Terberg work.
I'll still need the DCPC to do that but I'm winding down my days/nights down the road now.

Had 2 slipped discs in the past and god knows how many physio and osteopath sessions,sitting on my arse all night behind the wheel is no good for me now,start seizing up.Your discs compress when sat down for hours and thats no good for me anymore,they are damaging my nerves with the compression.
Been on shunting in a unit for the last 4 weeks and my back has never felt better,keeping active at work.
I'll be knocking on the trainers door next week to get me signed off on Terbergs so I can cover on those too.
Then when a slot opens up move onto terbergs and shunting with units on a permanent basis.
Semi perm atm.


R0G

3,863 posts

38 months

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Friday 8th June 2012 quote quote all
Panda76 said:
Next module is based more on driving and you have to do a running commentary drive too
That'll be expensive either for the driver or the company depending who is paying

commentary driving is an art in itself with many doing (and saying) all sorts of weird things when they first try it !!

car crazy

1,796 posts

46 months

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Monday 11th June 2012 quote quote all
Doing it a bit at a time done 21 hours (3 Saturdays) got 14 hours to do

R0G

3,863 posts

38 months

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Monday 11th June 2012 quote quote all
car crazy said:
Doing it a bit at a time done 21 hours (3 Saturdays) got 14 hours to do
Did you do the legal thing and record it as other work?

cossy400

1,125 posts

67 months

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Monday 11th June 2012 quote quote all
R0G said:
car crazy said:
Doing it a bit at a time done 21 hours (3 Saturdays) got 14 hours to do
Did you do the legal thing and record it as other work?
Done a day today, on waht would be one of my rest days......... treat!!

R0G

3,863 posts

38 months

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Monday 11th June 2012 quote quote all
cossy400 said:
R0G said:
car crazy said:
Doing it a bit at a time done 21 hours (3 Saturdays) got 14 hours to do
Did you do the legal thing and record it as other work?
Done a day today, on waht would be one of my rest days......... treat!!
As long as you know that not recording it is illegal and you wish to take the risk and accept any consequences without moaning about it then that is your choice

car crazy

1,796 posts

46 months

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Tuesday 12th June 2012 quote quote all
R0G said:
car crazy said:
Doing it a bit at a time done 21 hours (3 Saturdays) got 14 hours to do
Did you do the legal thing and record it as other work?
In that job I worked 6 days a week, as the course was on the 7th it was my rest daybiggrin guess whose glad he got made redundant. Happy where I am now and tacho exemptbiggrin

R0G

3,863 posts

38 months

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Tuesday 12th June 2012 quote quote all
car crazy said:
In that job I worked 6 days a week,
If 6 full days every week then how did you manage that on EU regs?

car crazy

1,796 posts

46 months

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Tuesday 12th June 2012 quote quote all
R0G said:
car crazy said:
In that job I worked 6 days a week,
If 6 full days every week then how did you manage that on EU regs?
6 one week 5 the next,
On the log book now, much better and 50 hour weekswoohoonever work for a slave driver againbiggrin

R0G

3,863 posts

38 months

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Tuesday 12th June 2012 quote quote all
car crazy said:
6 one week 5 the next,
On the log book now, much better and 50 hour weekswoohoonever work for a slave driver againbiggrin
Now it makes sense

Domestic is nice but can be a nightmare with the wrong boss cos there are no compulsory breaks or rest periods

Humper

643 posts

45 months

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Tuesday 12th June 2012 quote quote all
My company will put me through in working time, no problem, they pay for medicals, tacho cards, only thing is itll be last minute squeezing it in cos thats the usual. They have the organisational capabilities of a piece of chewing gum.
Thats why i,m sitting having my break in Harthill Services empty, cos I went to Armadale to collect a load that isnt ready, it wasnt scheduled till tomorrow.


lgw

305 posts

93 months

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Tuesday 12th June 2012 quote quote all
Just done my second module, it was the same as the first one I done last month, it was a painfully boring 7 hours, doing another tomorrow

R0G

3,863 posts

38 months

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Tuesday 12th June 2012 quote quote all
lgw said:
Just done my second module, it was the same as the first one I done last month, it was a painfully boring 7 hours, doing another tomorrow
Same module again - 3rd time?

GC8

14,908 posts

73 months

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Tuesday 12th June 2012 quote quote all
Some people have done it five times!
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