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RDMcG
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GC8
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Chipchap said: Thats quite an unusual configuration for such an old vehicle, isnt it? Twin steers and one driven is common now, but I dont remember seeing it on older tractor units.
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SystemParanoia
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the Inno Truck  
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GC8
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It looks a bit too 'Joe 90' to be practical every day!
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SystemParanoia
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chilistrucker
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Lucas CAV
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GC8 said: Chipchap][url said: Thats quite an unusual for such an old vehicle, isnt it? Twin steers and one driven is common now, but I dont remember seeing it on older tractor units. That's an AEC Mammoth Minor - basically a Mandator with an extra axle. Brought out about the same time as the Scammell Trunker (although it was twin steer, it wasn't the Chinese6 arrangement like the AEC) Both designed to make 32 GVW more achieveable without overloading an axle on the unit.
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Chipchap
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Lucas CAV said: That's an AEC Mammoth Minor - basically a Mandator with an extra axle.
Brought out about the same time as the Scammell Trunker (although it was twin steer, it wasn't the Chinese6 arrangement like the AEC)
Both designed to make 32 GVW more achieveable without overloading an axle on the unit. All spot on, except they were actually badged as Mandators confusingly. The AEC designation from memory [1974] was 2TG6RE. Oh and it was a useless piece of kak in Scotland in the harsh winters. The main reason being mechanical suspension all round so no air bags to exhaust and aid traction. So we ended up shortening it imto a 4x2 and boy was it a performer. F86 was easy meat. F88 240 was a harder task but achievable on the big hills as the AV760 was really grunty. The kiddie in those days was the MAN 16:240 DFS with column shift splitter box. fast quiet and easy to drive. A
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MadDad
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I served an apprenticeship with Leyland/DAF many moons ago (god knows how I ended up as a program manager in IT)..... I had a soft spot for two models in the range that were particularly nice to work on, and look at - the 3600 and the T45.   I think the second photo was the Vales demo truck while I was serving my apprenticeship. But, my fave was our wrecker, one of these; 
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Lucas CAV
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Chipchap said: Lucas CAV said: That's an AEC Mammoth Minor - basically a Mandator with an extra axle.
Brought out about the same time as the Scammell Trunker (although it was twin steer, it wasn't the Chinese6 arrangement like the AEC)
Both designed to make 32 GVW more achieveable without overloading an axle on the unit. All spot on, except they were actually badged as Mandators confusingly. The AEC designation from memory [1974] was 2TG6RE. Oh and it was a useless piece of kak in Scotland in the harsh winters. The main reason being mechanical suspension all round so no air bags to exhaust and aid traction. So we ended up shortening it imto a 4x2 and boy was it a performer. F86 was easy meat. F88 240 was a harder task but achievable on the big hills as the AV760 was really grunty. The kiddie in those days was the MAN 16:240 DFS with column shift splitter box. fast quiet and easy to drive. A IIRC the Mammoth Minor was made until 1971 - major buyers were Air Products and Sam Anderson of Newhouse - The Mandator should've had the Fuller box from the start rather than the old 6 speed!
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Chipchap
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Ours was registered as PDC 827H and I think was new to Salvesens running on the Scottish Island boats. We bought it out of AEC London Road Glasgow as it had been in for a new engine after some one put it in a ditch up north and cracked the sump, then drove it on after recovery and killed the engine through lack of oil.
It had the 6spd AEC box and i know this as I did a clutch on it in my "O" level year, on my own !Oh and it was outside as we had no undercover at that time [hard we were lol].
Our 1966 "D" reg Highwayman had a 150 6LX Gardner with a 6 speed Scammell box & rear axle and our 1971 "J" reg Trunker 2 had a Leyland 680 Power+ and a 6 speed Scammell box and axle. Both Scammells had the gate on the gearbox.
Old British trucks were already dying by 1974/75 as Ailsa Trucks were leading a Volvo revolution in Scotland and Scania were doing similar. DAF were making inroads with the little 2200 range.
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ZR1cliff
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Talking of spuds, when I was 14 I helped out at a local fruit&veg wholesalers and helped load the lorries after school, Saturday mornings I was out early and a driver's mate helping with deliveries in and old Bedford TK or Ford. 
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odyssey2200
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SystemParanoia said: the Inno Truck That is the coolest thing I have ever seen!!! Want that soooo badly!!
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