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ZR1cliff

17,974 posts

137 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
europhil said:
Super Slo Mo said:
Cars outnumber trucks by more than 70:1, unless we're only talking about the tt:tt ratio, but even then, I'd wager it was a greater ratio than 10:1.
90% of vehicles on uk roads are cars. 6% are trucks. the other 4% is made up of all other vehicles.
ok, i was bored one day, and this bit of crap stayed in my head.
They never did their study at the Dartford crossing then biggrin

Gaz.

50,480 posts

139 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
bqf said:
GC8 said:
Be quiet.
Heres an instruction for you - get fked
Find some manners or find another forum to pollute.

kentmotorcompany

2,408 posts

98 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
Gaz. said:
bqf said:
GC8 said:
Be quiet.
Heres an instruction for you - get fked
Find some manners or find another forum to pollute.
To be fair to the OP I think the "be quiet" post was quite provocative and very patronising.

Johnnytheboy

10,627 posts

74 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
May I nominate the truck who pulled out to overtake another lorry as we approached the Ringwood flyover yesterday morning?

I was approaching them at ~70 and as it was 0600 there was a mahoosive gap behind me in which he could have started his "manouevre". But no, he had to pull out - obviously with only the briefest of indicates once he'd already started moving - when I was close enough to have to brake sharply.

He then spent the whole of Poulner Hill trying to even get level with the other lorry before realising it was futile near the top of the hill, by which time both lorries had dropped to about 45, and pulled back in again.

Gigantic tt.

Pixelpeep

3,289 posts

30 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
A thread like this was never gonna end well was it.

Feel for HGV's - i had a slight insight into their world when driving a massively underpowered bucket truck based on the old Renault Master - it would take you 10 miles to build up to motorway speed and by the time you are there you DO NOT wanna give it up for anyone. Over taking has to be done (within reason) as soon as humanly possible.. if you have to lift off, it's going to take you another 5 miles to build up the speed.

then you get the people that fly past you, then you end up catching them up, pull out to overtake and all of a sudden they decide that they don't want you in front of them so they speed up.. leaving you hanging with the next thing in lane one filling your previous position.


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martin mrt

2,697 posts

89 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
Thank fk my truck does 58mph, if I want to pass another HGV, it causes a minimum disruption to any other road users.

No elephant racing in this house.

R0G

4,114 posts

43 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
This whole situation is daft when you think about it - we spend years building more powerful trucks and then accept limiters being put on them !!

Exit the EU = exit limiters

Gaz.

50,480 posts

139 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
kentmotorcompany said:
Gaz. said:
bqf said:
GC8 said:
Be quiet.
Heres an instruction for you - get fked
Find some manners or find another forum to pollute.
To be fair to the OP I think the "be quiet" post was quite provocative and very patronising.
Agreed but the response was still below the bar expected.

kentmotorcompany

2,408 posts

98 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
Gaz. said:
kentmotorcompany said:
Gaz. said:
bqf said:
GC8 said:
Be quiet.
Heres an instruction for you - get fked
Find some manners or find another forum to pollute.
To be fair to the OP I think the "be quiet" post was quite provocative and very patronising.
Agreed but the response was still below the bar expected.
Do you work for PH then?

bqf

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1,409 posts

59 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
Gaz. said:
Agreed but the response was still below the bar expected.
'the bar expected' - who are you exactly? some sort of 'internet manners' policeman? rolleyes

'Be Quiet' will usually extract a compelling response, I think you'll find.

Gaz.

50,480 posts

139 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
kentmotorcompany said:
Do you work for PH then?
I've been a mod for 7 years. I wouldn't call it work though.

Keyser Soze

14,455 posts

79 months

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Thursday 4th October 2012 quote quote all
bqf said:
'the bar expected' - who are you exactly? some sort of 'internet manners' policeman? rolleyes

'Be Quiet' will usually extract a compelling response, I think you'll find.
In some ways he is

Talking to Gaz like that will earn you a binning. I think you'll find

Humper

705 posts

50 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
Is it just me thinking the initials bqf should stand for " be quiet, fool"........

reckless st

178 posts

95 months

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Friday 5th October 2012 quote quote all
since this topic continues to escalate my view as a proffesional driver is
1)the days of proffesional drivers are diminishing because drivers of today only take these jobs because they have lost thier original jobs so do this as a 2nd or 3rd option
2)training is inadequate
3)companies treat drivers as third class citizens you pay peanuts you get monkeys..hence the lack of proffesionalism in this sector
4) no proffesionalism equals drivers of today dont give f**k for any other road users
this is just my opinion being one of a dying breed of professionals

iva cosworth

15,479 posts

51 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
OP Bore off will you.

BTW the M26 is not 20 miles long.

HTH.

Hooli

28,547 posts

88 months

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Saturday 6th October 2012 quote quote all
Gaz. said:
kentmotorcompany said:
Do you work for PH then?
I've been a mod for 7 years. I wouldn't call it work though.
It's a shame PH has nothing to mark you as such, it would be handy to know if it's a mod or just a busybody telling people what to do.

jmorgan

21,059 posts

172 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
reckless st said:
since this topic continues to escalate my view as a proffesional driver is
1)the days of proffesional drivers are diminishing because drivers of today only take these jobs because they have lost thier original jobs so do this as a 2nd or 3rd option
2)training is inadequate
3)companies treat drivers as third class citizens you pay peanuts you get monkeys..hence the lack of proffesionalism in this sector
4) no proffesionalism equals drivers of today dont give f**k for any other road users
this is just my opinion being one of a dying breed of professionals
This is something that am not sure was ever there, knights of the road etc. I wonder if the increasing traffic loads push us all together and peoples perceptions were never there in reality as we get a closer view? Maybe a few years ago there were less wagons and this issue was not as visible.

Wonder what the pay rates are, the recent tanker dispute showed us that some driver on on a good whack. (I did say some, not all or the majority before I beaten to death with a Yorkie). Certainly a life on the road may not be for all people but I know a few that like it.

With regards training, never done any myself but observations of a lot of drivers (car and lorry) in a lot of circumstances indicates what ever test they took, they have forgotten or neglect to take note of. Don't think that is a singular fault.


Either way, back on topic. I find it easier to sit back and chill out when this happens to me. There are so many other muppets on the road, this is a small thing in comparison when I think of the end result, which is stuff on the shelves when I want it.

ZR1cliff

17,974 posts

137 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
My view on a professional driver - someone that has amassed a certain amount of experience and still admits to learning. Also someone that can deal with an oncoming situation with a level head, putting them in total control of their situation.

One thing that amazes me, is the amount of drivers, of all types of vehicles, who keep their foot firmly planted on the accelerator pedal when a situation ahead of them is starting to develop.

bebee

3,124 posts

113 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
bqf said:
When on the 2-lane, 20 mile long M26, do not pull out to overtake another lorry, and spend 8 miles doing so, you daft tt. If you are traveling at 55.5 mph, and the vehicle you want to overtaken is travelling at 55.25mph, just BACK OFF A BIT.

Also, if you are the lorry being overtaken, BACK OFF A BIT, and you will help to avoid an 8 mile tailback on the M26, and a great deal of horn blowing and general abuse from other road users, you cretinous tt.

Many thanks.
Am I missing something here? Tell me I'm thick please but if they both 'BACK OFF A BIT' won't that take longer and be counter productive in the overtake manoeuvre? scratchchin

R0G

4,114 posts

43 months

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Sunday 7th October 2012 quote quote all
bebee said:
bqf said:
When on the 2-lane, 20 mile long M26, do not pull out to overtake another lorry, and spend 8 miles doing so, you daft tt. If you are traveling at 55.5 mph, and the vehicle you want to overtaken is travelling at 55.25mph, just BACK OFF A BIT.

Also, if you are the lorry being overtaken, BACK OFF A BIT, and you will help to avoid an 8 mile tailback on the M26, and a great deal of horn blowing and general abuse from other road users, you cretinous tt.

Many thanks.
Am I missing something here? Tell me I'm thick please but if they both 'BACK OFF A BIT' won't that take longer and be counter productive in the overtake manoeuvre? scratchchin
You are missing it - He is saying that the driver intending to pass could ease off a bit and not overtake or the one being overtaken could back off a bit
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