Questions for truckers...

[chilistrucker]

No i hadn't, nice pic.
I believe there is a guy still running around in his f88 on a daily basis.

[Lucas CAV]

chilistrucker said:

No i hadn't, nice pic.
I believe there is a guy still running around in his f88 on a daily basis.

Yep -Bob Carmichael - top guy!
Goes all over the Uk in it

[chilistrucker]

Thats cracking.

[bigfatnick]

Lucas CAV said:

bigfatnick said:

Is it green, from the north and runs a tanker?

Barretts of Oldham ? - no, not them - but what a fleet of monsters they do still have -

Edited by Lucas CAV on Monday 11th April 22:29

One of his erf's came past me like I was stood still a few months ago, odd as I usually only get passed once or twice a month. That was until we came to a hill and I came past him at a similar speed, fully loaded. It's amazing what a decade and a bit of engine and gearbox development will do. And mine is one of the lower powered v8's.

[Lucas CAV]

bigfatnick said:

Lucas CAV said:

bigfatnick said:

Is it green, from the north and runs a tanker?

Barretts of Oldham ? - no, not them - but what a fleet of monsters they do still have -

Edited by Lucas CAV on Monday 11th April 22:29

One of his erf's came past me like I was stood still a few months ago, odd as I usually only get passed once or twice a month. That was until we came to a hill and I came past him at a similar speed, fully loaded. It's amazing what a decade and a bit of engine and gearbox development will do. And mine is one of the lower powered v8's.

IIRC "J" Barrett was a lady - the firm would now be run by her son, I'd think.

[ChemicalChaos]

I read up today that the maximum legal width of a truck or trailer is 2.55 metres. What are the legalities of exceeding this without needing a wide load escort etc? I sometimes see curtainsiders with bulging sides from wide pallets in them, and a friend of a friend sometimes has bit of aeroplane fuselage that I know are 2.6 metres wide moved around on a flatbed rigid truck - I can see how these would go unnoticed due to being such minor discrepancies. However, I often see trucks with a portacabin or similar on the back that overhangs a good foot either side - and nothing other than an amber beacon on the back of the truck to notify of this.
At what point over 2.5m do you stop needing a beacon or little flag, and start needing an escort and police permission?

[markmullen]

2.55m is the standard construction and use regulation. Outside of that you get into STGO regulations which covers abnormal indivisible loads, extra wide, long or heavy stuff.

There's a sliding scale of what's needed, from warning the police right up to lodging bonds with the highways agency to cover damage to the carriageway, escort vehicles etc.

Beyond STGO you've got vehicle special order which is for really really wide, heavy or long stuff.

[ChemicalChaos]

Ah I see. I remember now - a friend drives a very long showmans road train under STGO regs and he said something about just having to go slower?
Does STGO apply only to trucks or would it theoretically let someone tow a slightly over-width load with a car displaying the correct plates?

[Fun Bus]

STGO and special loads are a world of their own. Very specialist kit and drivers/crews.

6 page guide here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploa...

[Lucas CAV]

ChemicalChaos said:

Ah I see. I remember now - a friend drives a very long showmans road train under STGO regs and he said something about just having to go slower?
Does STGO apply only to trucks or would it theoretically let someone tow a slightly over-width load with a car displaying the correct plates?

STGO and Showmans are different vehicle classes entirely subject to different regs and taxation.

STGO requires LGV licence too while showmans does not -- (depending on the vehicle)

[zip929]

martin mrt said:

chilistrucker said:

Test driver said:

Do truckers have championships for elephant racing?

Nope. The people that elephant race, (imho) are not proper lorry drivers, just bums on seats sadly.

+1 Agree, if I'm being overtaken on the limiter (which with my last Scania happened once) I slow down and let the quicker truck past, it's a pet hate of mine elephant racing.

Old Scania used to do 60mph, was out in a new Merc Actros today, 53-54mph at best, awful experience

Yes, ease off if being overtaken.
Going side by side for miles, only pisses the car drivers off behind the overtaking wagon.
Some truck drivers seem not to like being overtaken, and will leave you sitting out there for a couple of miles.
Not very professional.

[hashtag]

zip929 said:

martin mrt said:

chilistrucker said:

Test driver said:

Do truckers have championships for elephant racing?

Nope. The people that elephant race, (imho) are not proper lorry drivers, just bums on seats sadly.

+1 Agree, if I'm being overtaken on the limiter (which with my last Scania happened once) I slow down and let the quicker truck past, it's a pet hate of mine elephant racing.

Old Scania used to do 60mph, was out in a new Merc Actros today, 53-54mph at best, awful experience

Yes, ease off if being overtaken.
Going side by side for miles, only pisses the car drivers off behind the overtaking wagon.
Some truck drivers seem not to like being overtaken, and will leave you sitting out there for a couple of miles.
Not very professional.


I suspect that this is a two sided argument, some truckers must overtake at all costs.