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StoatInACoat

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1,355 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Like the new section - closet camper here and will get up a picture of my herd of tents in the appropriate thread shortly!

Sadly on our last expedition to Oulton Park our stove, 4.5kg gas can, regulator and, bizarrely, kettle (which was as old as me frown ) were "liberated" from our gay-zee-bo while we were watching the racing by some scumbag.

Owing to the nature of its departure I'm disinclined to spend the required zillions replacing all the bits and bobs. To replace the gas bottle (to hire another one) seems to cost nearly £50 on its own for example! Add a tenner for the regulator and £30 for the stove and it starts becoming an expensive weekend frown

I was looking at this thing on ebay:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/330741960734?ssPageName=...

But it runs on the cans I use in my lantern? Is this how people do it now and am I behind the times lugging my huge rusty can of butane about? I assumed that this setup would be a costly way to burn gas and the cartridges wouldn't last long but anybodies experiences would be much appreciated of similar setups smile

LordHaveMurci

12,047 posts

170 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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I'd be interested to see the replies on this as I have the same stove which I have yet to use & a 13kg(?) Calor cylinder which I was going to swap for a 4.5kg(?) one.

smifffymoto

4,586 posts

206 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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A Trangia is what you need.Forget gas,runs out when you least expect it too.

The only fault with a Trangia is that you can only heat up one thing at a time.

Odie

4,187 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
How much cooking are we talking here?

I see these £10'ers at Go Outdoors, top left and that makes it almost disposable BBQ cheap
Edited by Paddy_N_Murphy on Wednesday 13th June 14:09
the gas for them is really cheap too.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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http://www.amazon.co.uk/Campingaz-Camping-Duo-Plus...

I've got that. Those Camping Gaz bottles are sold everywhere (including my local supermarket), can be taken off half full and are dirt cheap. Simple design too. That stove cooked meals for 5 in a field in the Lake District last year quite happily. It needs to be out of the wind to be any good but that was never really an issue for us.

Now I just need to order the single version for a wild camping.

StoatInACoat

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1,355 posts

186 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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We're used to using a two ring job like the one in my link with a 4.5kg butane bottle. Not touching a trangia - been there, done that as a boy scout. Rather run out of gas than have one of those with fuel leaking everywhere in a bag, falling over and burning everything down etc. We cook under canvas as well so not something I'd consider using.

The setup we had before was perfectly adequate I just don't fancy the replacement cost of a proper butane bottle and what I had seems to be able to run off these things with the right regulator.

http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/campingaz-gaz-cv470-ca...

We use the whole lot about 5 or 6 times a season for between 3 and 7 people at any one time so it gets a fair bit of use. We have a heater thing that takes the cartridges as someone linked above but that eats about 1-2 of those a night if the missus is particularly cold and/or drying wet clothes. Although they're cheapish when only using that a couple of times a year that's quite a rate to go through them if cooking all the time I'd have thought? Or does a stove use less?

StoatInACoat

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186 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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tenohfive said:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Campingaz-Camping-Duo-Plus...

I've got that. Those Camping Gaz bottles are sold everywhere (including my local supermarket), can be taken off half full and are dirt cheap. Simple design too. That stove cooked meals for 5 in a field in the Lake District last year quite happily. It needs to be out of the wind to be any good but that was never really an issue for us.

Now I just need to order the single version for a wild camping.
That's the sort of thing I was thinking. How long does the gas last?

Odie

4,187 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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There is a butane bottle size up from the one you linked but smaller than the 4.5kg. Might be better for your needs im not sure calor still do it though.

Odie

4,187 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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http://www.gooutdoors.co.uk/calor-gaz-901-cylinder...

13-14 deposit and then 13.50 for a refill.

Bill

52,947 posts

256 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Odie said:
the gas for them is really cheap too.
And lasts surprisingly well IME.

tenohfive

6,276 posts

183 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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StoatInACoat said:
That's the sort of thing I was thinking. How long does the gas last?
Off the top of my head we used 2-3 bottles over 3 breakfasts, 2 main meals (proper meals too - chicken & chorizo in red wine etc, not 10 minute pasta) and regular tea breaks. That's for 5 adults. Not sure what that works out in hours etc but it seemed reasonable and appropriate to the size of the bottles/cost etc. They do different quantity gas bottles, I think we had the CV 300 - the middle one:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Campingaz-CV300-Camping-Ca...

StoatInACoat

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186 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Blimey. I use the bigger version of that on my lantern. That gives me a far better idea of gas consumption than hours to be honest so thanks for that - way better than I was expecting.

And thanks Odie for linking that big one. Didn't even know you could get those! Looks much more viable than replacing my trusty rusty bd thing that never fitted anywhere in the car anyway.

Meeja

8,289 posts

249 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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LordHaveMurci said:
I'd be interested to see the replies on this as I have the same stove which I have yet to use & a 13kg(?) Calor cylinder which I was going to swap for a 4.5kg(?) one.
We have that stove (bought online whilst on "special offer" a couple of years ago for £32.99 including bag and regulator!) - we run it from a 4.5Kg Calor gas can

You may need a different regulator for the 4.5Kg can than you do for the can you have.

ETA:

If it helps, a 4.5Kg butane cannister lasts us for about three weeks worth of holidays - used daily for an evening meal for a family of four, and perhaps 30% of the time for breakfast (as we "glamp" by having electric, we bring a cheap electric toaster and an electric kettle, thus saving on gas!)

Mrs Meeja also doesn't rely on traditional camping meals when we are away - she can do a roast chicken and jacket potatoes on that setup!

In a perfect world though, I'd have a Cadac carri-Chef deluxe.... but that is a whole other debate!

Edited by Meeja on Wednesday 13th June 18:31

GAjon

3,738 posts

214 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Meeja said:
In a perfect world though, I'd have a Cadac carri-Chef deluxe.... but that is a whole other debate!

Edited by Meeja on Wednesday 13th June 18:31
Best item of kit I've bought, frying pan, griddle, BBQ, Wok, Roasting oven and pan burner all in one.

anonymous-user

55 months

Wednesday 13th June 2012
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Coleman dual fuel double burner is the only thing to get.

Odie

4,187 posts

183 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Ive got an old duel fuel stove somewhere, it would probably explode if I tried to use it now. But I fancy getting a new one.

Telomerase

164 posts

151 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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smifffymoto said:
A Trangia is what you need.Forget gas,runs out when you least expect it too.

The only fault with a Trangia is that you can only heat up one thing at a time.
Agreed, Trangia is great but you can use a lot of fuel just boiling water. To get round this and have 2 sources I have a Trangia and a Kelly Kettle, will boil a litre of water in 5 minutes with a few twigs and scrap paper. http://www.kellykettle.com/ Oh, and they look totaly cool at night with a jet of flame shooting out the top.

anonymous-user

55 months

Thursday 14th June 2012
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Telomerase said:
a Kelly Kettle, will boil a litre of water in 5 minutes with a few twigs and scrap paper. http://www.kellykettle.com/ Oh, and they look totaly cool at night with a jet of flame shooting out the top.
They also take a bloody age to get going, leave ash and soot everywhere and stink of smoke.

Angry Sheep

1,120 posts

211 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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Paddy_N_Murphy said:
How much cooking are we talking here?

I see these £10'ers at Go Outdoors, top left and that makes it almost disposable BBQ cheap
I bought one of these yesterday. I was fed up with lugging my double burner with big gas bottle around and these seemed like a bit of a bargain. Tried it out last night, they give off more heat than I expected and boiled a kettle quick enough.

I think I'll invest in a Kelly Kettle in the future and use that for hot drinks and this for cooking.

Bill

52,947 posts

256 months

Friday 15th June 2012
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bulldong said:
Coleman dual fuel double burner is the only thing to get.
Although getting and storing small volumes of petrol can be a PITA, particularly if your car is diesel. And I know they run on other fluids, but why would you use anything other than petrol?