Awnings - Which? Where?

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Chrisgr31

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13,474 posts

255 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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So the caravan needs an awning. It came with loads of awning poles but no cover for them!

So there are the traditional awnings with great big poles weight a ton, and take longer to erect than a tent. There are the lightweight fibreglass pole versions of the same thing, and there are porch awnings.

Then there are different manufacturers and within those manufacturers they have different ranges, oh and then you can buy new or second hand.

So whats everyone got in awnings? My suspicion is in the ideal world you'd have a big heavy awning for a week or more away, and lightweight porch for weekends, but is that what everyone does?

oblio

5,408 posts

227 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Why not go to inflatable? Best of both worlds: quick to put up and strong and lightweight?

We bought a Kampa Motor Air 390 XL for our MH however I sent it back and got their Motor Midi Air Tall as I couldnt attach it to my MH single handedly..which was important to me. The Midi Air is a driveaway awning which suits us perfectly.

The Kampa products are superb quality yes



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campermanj

50 posts

111 months

Sunday 19th April 2015
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Vango do an airbeam model for caravans, inflatable, spacious, quick to erect/take down and they are reasonably priced

surveyor

17,817 posts

184 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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We have a full traditional type, a 2/3 lightweight porch awning and a 1/3 lightweight porch awning that came with the caravan and I don't think has been used.

The downside of the Vango to me is that the hardest part is pegging the awning down. The poles are actually very straightforward.

Chrisgr31

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13,474 posts

255 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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surveyor said:
We have a full traditional type, a 2/3 lightweight porch awning and a 1/3 lightweight porch awning that came with the caravan and I don't think has been used.

The downside of the Vango to me is that the hardest part is pegging the awning down. The poles are actually very straightforward.
Strange you should mention the pegging down issue as just been discussing it in the office and a fellow carvanner said exactly the same. Whats the point as the time consuming bit is pegging it down.

Having said that I assume ome advantage of an inflatable is that there will be none of the standard awning dings in the side of the caravan.

crikey

1,700 posts

211 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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oblio said:
The Kampa products are superb quality yes
I'll second that smile

We have a Kampa Rally Plus 390 which I can set up on my own in 30 minutes, including pegging out. We use it whether we're away for 2 nights or 2 weeks.



Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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I guess that Isabella is the money-no-object awning. Rigid fibreglass poles and a reasonably hefty construction. Peg it out and guy-line it properly, and it'll withstand very strong winds. They're classed as 4-season awnings but I have been to some coastal regions where the winds made me doubt the integrity of the caravan, so I wouldn't trust any fabric construction in those conditions.

We were in Wales about 4 years ago where the winds were so strong we saw two awnings completely wrecked and several tents in trees or missing altogether. What they had in common was those 6mm flexible fibreglass poles. Even with care and attention to guy-lining them, they just can't withstand the sheer weight of the wind against the sides. In contrast, my brother's triple-stitched bell-tent with a single 35mm central pole stood firm. We have all always used v-profile tent pegs and land anchors where we felt the conditions warranted it but simply anchoring a tent or awning to the ground won't stop it from folding in two if the poles are flexible. That also applies to inflatable structures. I must admit, I've been very impressed with our friend's Vango inflatable in quite strong winds but it does have limitations. It wouldn't have withstood those winds we experienced in Wales.

surveyor

17,817 posts

184 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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Watchman said:
I guess that Isabella is the money-no-object awning. Rigid fibreglass poles and a reasonably hefty construction. Peg it out and guy-line it properly, and it'll withstand very strong winds. They're classed as 4-season awnings but I have been to some coastal regions where the winds made me doubt the integrity of the caravan, so I wouldn't trust any fabric construction in those conditions.

We were in Wales about 4 years ago where the winds were so strong we saw two awnings completely wrecked and several tents in trees or missing altogether. What they had in common was those 6mm flexible fibreglass poles. Even with care and attention to guy-lining them, they just can't withstand the sheer weight of the wind against the sides. In contrast, my brother's triple-stitched bell-tent with a single 35mm central pole stood firm. We have all always used v-profile tent pegs and land anchors where we felt the conditions warranted it but simply anchoring a tent or awning to the ground won't stop it from folding in two if the poles are flexible. That also applies to inflatable structures. I must admit, I've been very impressed with our friend's Vango inflatable in quite strong winds but it does have limitations. It wouldn't have withstood those winds we experienced in Wales.
The flexi type pole awnings are usually marketed as 'lightweight' and not suitable for very heavy winds....

Watchman

6,391 posts

245 months

Monday 20th April 2015
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surveyor said:
The flexi type pole awnings are usually marketed as 'lightweight' and not suitable for very heavy winds....
I'm not sure how many owners know this though. Most seem to buy on price.

hornetrider

63,161 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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We've got a full bore full size Dorema awning with just the standard presumably steel poles. Takes me an hour on the nose to set up on my own including pegging, groundsheet etc whilst the mrs is organising the inside of the van and taking care of HR Jr. It's a piece of piss to set up when you get used to it and figure out a system of doing the poles in the right order etc.

Wouldn't be without it as it basically doubles your available space. Hence we leave our dinette made into the bed for us as we don't need that space as living space. It's also got plenty of room for my daughter to play in as well as having a dining table, chairs and all the rest. Recommended.


Laner

127 posts

255 months

Thursday 23rd April 2015
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We have a inflatable drive away Vango now for the motorhome. Swearing and cussing has been virtually eliminated compared to setting up a lightweight awning on the North Devon coast.


Antony Moxey

8,062 posts

219 months

Friday 24th April 2015
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Do you have any pics? I'm new to motor homing so would be interested in seeing one up.

Chrisgr31

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13,474 posts

255 months

Sunday 26th April 2015
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hornetrider said:
We've got a full bore full size Dorema awning with just the standard presumably steel poles. Takes me an hour on the nose to set up on my own including pegging, groundsheet etc whilst the mrs is organising the inside of the van and taking care of HR Jr. It's a piece of piss to set up when you get used to it and figure out a system of doing the poles in the right order etc.

Wouldn't be without it as it basically doubles your available space. Hence we leave our dinette made into the bed for us as we don't need that space as living space. It's also got plenty of room for my daughter to play in as well as having a dining table, chairs and all the rest. Recommended.

Just bought one very similar to this on Ebay, and then discovered a neighbour down the road has an awning that they need to get rid off as it doesnt fit their new van!

LeadFarmer

7,411 posts

131 months

Monday 27th April 2015
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We use a full size Isabella awning with two annex extensions if pitching for a week or more. For weekends we use a Kampa porch awning which I can erect on my own in just a few minutes.







Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

247 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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Hi Chris, long time no talk!

We have a Kampa inflatable and I can't recommend it highly enough. I can get it set up in basic configuration in around fiftenn minutes, although if you start adding annexes and all the guy lines, the big floor mat etc then you can add at least another twenty. As you say, the main advantages are the light weight, ease of use, speed and no poles to scratch the caravan, a new bailey Pursuit 560/5..

As you will note, we've come a long from the days of a filthy matress and a pool of sick in the back of the Commer! smile


Barry Ashcroft

1,958 posts

221 months

Thursday 14th May 2015
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We have a full size awning for long stays but last year bought a Kampa Rally Air 330 for short stays. One word awesome, so easy to put up it literally takes minutes.


Kenty

5,046 posts

175 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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crikey said:
I'll second that smile

We have a Kampa Rally Plus 390 which I can set up on my own in 30 minutes, including pegging out. We use it whether we're away for 2 nights or 2 weeks.


this what we have, superb.

Andy Zarse

10,868 posts

247 months

Wednesday 20th May 2015
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Barry Ashcroft said:
We have a full size awning for long stays but last year bought a Kampa Rally Air 330 for short stays. One word awesome, so easy to put up it literally takes minutes.

Barry is that Honda genny really chained up to your jockey wheel clamp handle?? wink

ColinM50

2,631 posts

175 months

Friday 22nd May 2015
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Can't argue with other posters, we too have a Kampa 330 small awning for weekends but wanted a bigger one since we've now got a seasonal pitch. whilst the Dorema and Isabella ones are the nuts, at around £1400 for our size van I really couldn't justify/afford it. Then my local caravan dealer who I'd bought my last van from, put me on to a Dutch range sold in the UK by Gateway products.

http://www.gatewayleisureproducts.com/awnings.php

We bought the New Forest, 1050 long and the local dealer sold it to me for £470. Delivered in two days.

It's heavy and tbh the instructions are probably very good if you're a native Dutch speaker, otherwise they're a nightmare but since all awnings are much of a muchness, we worked it out fairly easily.

It's pretty good. Not brilliant, but good value for money IMHO.

Barry Ashcroft

1,958 posts

221 months

Thursday 28th May 2015
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Andy Zarse said:
Barry is that Honda genny really chained up to your jockey wheel clamp handle?? wink
Looks like it Andy but as you can guess it's wrapped around the chassis thumbup