Thetford emptying

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77racing

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3,346 posts

187 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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Newby here. Got a motorhome will be using the loo but have read not to empty it in the down stairs toilet at home. So where am I supposed to responsibly dispose of the contents if i'm not on a site.

Spuffington

1,203 posts

168 months

Monday 19th September 2016
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I lift one of the manhole covers to the drain or tip directly into the septic tank (only using the green fluid, not the blue).

Reason for not sticking it down your lav is because it stinks to high heaven! vomit

oblio

5,407 posts

227 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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I occasionally empty it at home in the loo. There is no issue with this at all...it smells wherever you empty it tbh. As soon as you flush your bog any smell should go (just like any normal toilet activity). Make use of some bespoke chemicals and this also helps cover some of the smell. If you have a septic tank at home, as said, make sure to get the right chemicals for use in one of those (although if you are only emptying it occasionally down the loo it cant make too much difference).

The other unwritten rule in many quarters is to only use the Thetford for number 1's! This also helps... wink

littlebasher

3,774 posts

171 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Down a manhole for me.

Plus, unlike myself - the Mrs and kids use it as a normal toilet, so it's log city inside. In fact, i find it easier to empty if i remove the spout rather than risk a jam in the pipe from a monster turd.

Spuffington

1,203 posts

168 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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It's funny, oblio, I was also of the same view - in theory it should be just like normal use of the toilet. But I've done it twice now and each time, it's left a horrible lingering smell. So since then, it's straight down the manhole or septic tank for me.

But then again, my wife & daughter use it as a normal toilet too, so I guess understandable to have perhaps a bit more pong!

Oh the joys of motorhoming! smile

77racing

Original Poster:

3,346 posts

187 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Yes I'm begging to get the drift of this.biggrin

Rosscow

8,745 posts

163 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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If it needs emptying at home, then it's down the manhole for me.

oblio

5,407 posts

227 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Spuffington said:
It's funny, oblio, I was also of the same view - in theory it should be just like normal use of the toilet. But I've done it twice now and each time, it's left a horrible lingering smell. So since then, it's straight down the manhole or septic tank for me.

But then again, my wife & daughter use it as a normal toilet too, so I guess understandable to have perhaps a bit more pong!

Oh the joys of motorhoming! smile
Strange...zero issue here at Oblio Towers smile

Bellini

768 posts

151 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Aah, the joys of having a black tank in mine. laugh

oblio

5,407 posts

227 months

Tuesday 20th September 2016
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Bellini said:
Aah, the joys of having a black tank in mine. laugh
Now that wouldnt empty into the downstairs bog...

Spuffington

1,203 posts

168 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Bellini said:
Aah, the joys of having a black tank in mine. laugh
Out of interest, how on earth do you empty that in the UK?

I've hired RVs in the US and of course there are great big manhole covers for black tank emptying, but everything over here is Elsan-based.

Or do you just drop it at home straight into the sewer?

55palfers

5,900 posts

164 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Everyone must take Imodium when you are out in the Motorhome, then lots of laxatives when you get home.

ColinM50

2,631 posts

175 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Find a nearby gypsy site and empty it there, evil.

BTW, I always empty our at the last campsite of the day and we have a "No number two's" rule too. Anyone who breaks the rule gets to empty the loo.redcard

Bellini

768 posts

151 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Most campsites have a manhole in their motorhome service point, or one handy somewhere else. I have a valve identical to my grey waste and a 4" outlet, again identical to my grey waste outlet, and a flex-hose that attaches via lugs to the tank outlet. Open manhole cover. Connect flexi hose at one end, aim it into the hole at the other. Pull the valve. WHOOSH! Done.

To clean the flexi-hose, connect the hose to the grey outlet and pull that valve. Another WHOOSH! and the pipe is clean again.

For the times when a manhole isn't available, I have a small macerator pump that connects to the outlet and 30m of lay-flat hose. The pump connects to one of my leisure batteries via crocodile clips and I can aim the other end of the hose down a nearby toilet or chemical waste facility, or even a mildly inaccessible manhole.

The beauty of the black tank is that it'll hold a week's worth of impunity with ease and takes seconds to empty.

I have hired motorhomes with the cassette whatsit and I much prefer the black tank arrangement.

chopper602

2,177 posts

223 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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No solids into our cassette! It fills up quick enough without them anyway!

Forget your fancy chemicals, I've been using liquid biological clothes detergent (as I heard others do too) as a tank additive. Cheap stuff from Aldi/Lidl seems to work the best. Smells much nicer and doesn't stain everything blue/green.

Spuffington

1,203 posts

168 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Thanks for that. Interesting stuff and I agree with the capacity point - the Thetford cassette is the real limitation to wild camping. I reckon we have a 24-36hr capacity with ours before it's full. The little'un seems to wee for Britain so is constantly using it and the wife won't go anywhere else either, so it fills up pretty quick. I have been meaning to buy a spare cassette to keep in one of the outside lockers to give us another day or so capacity, but not got around to it yet.

In respect of the comment about immodium / laxatives, I don't find it particularly bad, personally. Ok, so it's not the most pleasant task in the world and no-one would say they enjoyed it, but it's far from being the worst thing that you can do and it goes with the territory. I'd personally rather empty a Thetford cassette than do what some people do when they're camping and empty a bucket of waste! vomit

Also, depending on the site, I'd far rather take a dump in my toilet than one shared with hundreds of others!

littlebasher

3,774 posts

171 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Tbh, it's not that i mind emptying it - what's worse is the state the Elsan points are in when you do.

I swear some people just slosh it around the walls / floor, then don't bother hosing it down afterwards.

Rosscow

8,745 posts

163 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Spuffington said:
Thanks for that. Interesting stuff and I agree with the capacity point - the Thetford cassette is the real limitation to wild camping. I reckon we have a 24-36hr capacity with ours before it's full. The little'un seems to wee for Britain so is constantly using it and the wife won't go anywhere else either, so it fills up pretty quick. I have been meaning to buy a spare cassette to keep in one of the outside lockers to give us another day or so capacity, but not got around to it yet.

In respect of the comment about immodium / laxatives, I don't find it particularly bad, personally. Ok, so it's not the most pleasant task in the world and no-one would say they enjoyed it, but it's far from being the worst thing that you can do and it goes with the territory. I'd personally rather empty a Thetford cassette than do what some people do when they're camping and empty a bucket of waste! vomit

Also, depending on the site, I'd far rather take a dump in my toilet than one shared with hundreds of others!
If you're truly wild camping, then just keep a spade on board and as and when it's full, dig a hole and dispose of it! Use some 'nice' toilet fluid: http://www.bluebio.co.uk/

Pistom

4,957 posts

159 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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Not sure what the issue is with No 2s.

Give the cassette a bit of a slosh and they virtually liquefy anyway and I produce some real pile inducing ones.

Must say this is a thread where photos are not needed.

Wacky Racer

38,136 posts

247 months

Wednesday 21st September 2016
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There's no problem emptying your waste down your home toilet.

Regarding your Thetford, the inside mechanism is quite delicate, so DO NOT slosh it about too violently from side to side when emptying to get the last few drops out, as they are expensive to replace if you break it.

Number one's only in ours, (unless it's an emergency)..biggrin