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plasticpig

12,932 posts

225 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Guvernator said:
I guess if you are a hard sci-fi IMB fan than it could be said that Algebraist is a little bit more "popular fiction" orientated as the plot isn't as nuanced as his other stuff and the action moves along at a fair clip but I still loved it. I like to think of it as his fun book as opposed to his other tomes which are a bit more heavyweight.

Neal Asher is outstanding, his Ian Cormack and Polity series of books are brilliant. The Polity stuff does borrow quite heavily from IMB's Culture stuff IMO (i.e. incredibly intelligent AI minds running everything) but the pace and action are turned up to 11. If you like IMB's Culture novels, think of Neal Asher as the Micheal Bay\Hollywood version.
Not sure I would describe any of IMB's books as hard sc-fi. They are space opera in IMHO. Not enough detail about the physics and engineering behind the technology to be hard sc-fi.


Sway

26,256 posts

194 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Guvernator said:
DrTre said:
The Algebraist was one of the best!
I could never understand how it got such a lukewarm reception, I really liked that one.
I guess if you are a hard sci-fi IMB fan than it could be said that Algebraist is a little bit more "popular fiction" orientated as the plot isn't as nuanced as his other stuff and the action moves along at a fair clip but I still loved it. I like to think of it as his fun book as opposed to his other tomes which are a bit more heavyweight.
I loved Algebraist for the reasons you've given (same with Use of Weapons), however it was very easy to predict the plot twist... Combination of the prologue, and having just read a PFH with 'Lagrange Calvert', but there was little surprise in it for me - unlike pretty much every other ILB.

Guvernator

13,146 posts

165 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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plasticpig said:
Not sure I would describe any of IMB's books as hard sc-fi. They are space opera in IMHO. Not enough detail about the physics and engineering behind the technology to be hard sc-fi.
Ok perhaps I worded that badly as I appreciate hard sci-fi refers to a specific sci-fi sub genre. I just meant to say The Algebraist seems to be a lighter read then most of IMB's other stuff. It's like his trashy holiday novel equivalent (if such an expression can ever be used to refer to any of IMB's work) smile

Leithen

10,877 posts

267 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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All this talk is going to force me to reread all the Culture novels.

Baron Greenback

6,980 posts

150 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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DibblyDobbler said:
+1 For the Asher Polity books - I am romping through them at the moment, great fun smile
aye they are good, too quick read but fun!

Guvernator

13,146 posts

165 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Asher's Spatterjay series is also VERY good. Again set in the Polity universe but with a focus on the interesting goings on of the residents of a polity world called Spatterjay where an indigenous leech bite can infer humans with virtual immortality and superhuman strength. Yes that's as weird and fun as it sounds!

DrTre

12,955 posts

232 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Bloody hell, one of my favourite books/characters is going to be a Netflix show


http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-classic-cyberpunk-novel...

Tonsko

6,299 posts

215 months

Wednesday 20th January 2016
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Kovacs is a total bd too. Could be a good series that.

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Fun thing about it is the main character could be played by a lot of people

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Yep, sort of an evil Dr Who

DrTre

12,955 posts

232 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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He's not evil!

He's a righteous dude....who can, admittedly, be a bit punchy. And shooty. And stabby. And a bit torture-to-insanity-y.

But apart from that..

Edited by DrTre on Thursday 21st January 09:22

Digger

14,660 posts

191 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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I'm relatively new to Sci-Fi, having read Black Man and Altered Carbon.

What would be a good intro in to Neal Asher?

jmorgan

36,010 posts

284 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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DrTre said:
He's not evil!

He's a righteous dude....who can, admittedly, be a bit punchy. And shooty. And stabby. And a bit torture-to-insanity-y.

But apart from that..

Edited by DrTre on Thursday 21st January 09:22
Well, his morals are a tad lax but does have a certain sense of honour.

judas

5,989 posts

259 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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DrTre said:
Bloody hell, one of my favourite books/characters is going to be a Netflix show


http://io9.gizmodo.com/the-classic-cyberpunk-novel...
Excellent! biggrin

I remember hearing that Joel Silver's production company bought the rights years ago for a rather large sum. Given the amount of dumbing down you inevitably get I always wondered how they'd handle the body swapping thing and still make it intelligible to the residents of Bumhole, Wisconsin. Maybe this is the way...

Baron Greenback

6,980 posts

150 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Great news shame it's on Netflix though!

RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Digger said:
What would be a good intro in to Neal Asher?
Easy, start with gridlinked.

havoc

30,052 posts

235 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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jmorgan said:
DrTre said:
He's not evil!

He's a righteous dude....who can, admittedly, be a bit punchy. And shooty. And stabby. And a bit torture-to-insanity-y.

But apart from that..
Well, his morals are a tad lax but does have a certain sense of honour.
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Ends / means. Anything in between is irrelevant! biggrin


I can see this being treated rather like Preacher and Breaking Bad - classic anti-hero character who takes absolutely zero BS. Except in this case with rather more projectile weaponry.

I'm hoping they keep the fighting semi-realistic and avoid over-Hollywood'ing it.

The thing for me is who they pick to play him - half-asian / half slavic is a rare mix, even before you consider he's got special-forces build and is far from a pretty-boy...

DrTre

12,955 posts

232 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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havoc said:
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Ends / means. Anything in between is irrelevant! biggrin


I can see this being treated rather like Preacher and Breaking Bad - classic anti-hero character who takes absolutely zero BS. Except in this case with rather more projectile weaponry.

I'm hoping they keep the fighting semi-realistic and avoid over-Hollywood'ing it.

The thing for me is who they pick to play him - half-asian / half slavic is a rare mix, even before you consider he's got special-forces build and is far from a pretty-boy...
He's just Caucasian in the main thread of AC.
But for flashbacks, you're right.

irocfan

40,416 posts

190 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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havoc said:
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Ends / means. Anything in between is irrelevant! biggrin


I can see this being treated rather like Preacher and Breaking Bad - classic anti-hero character who takes absolutely zero BS. Except in this case with rather more projectile weaponry.

I'm hoping they keep the fighting semi-realistic and avoid over-Hollywood'ing it.

The thing for me is who they pick to play him - half-asian / half slavic is a rare mix, even before you consider he's got special-forces build and is far from a pretty-boy...
would this guy fit the bill?


RobDickinson

31,343 posts

254 months

Thursday 21st January 2016
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Not read the Kovacs stuff for a while, so next up after I finish my current book