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extraT

1,756 posts

150 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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Vandenberg said:
I just had my first journal article published in an american journal and had a call from the APA, about potentially writing a textbook which is flattering.

Thinking about it today I may do it if I can keep the digital rights and let them do the print version and I can self pub the all singing and dancing interactive ebook version. I love what you can do with an epub 3 files these days.

I used to work for the biggest STM publisher and know exactly how bad publishers are at digital, including some of their more dodgy practices.
Congrats on the publication and potential follow up work! But I would imagine they would be keen to hold the e-rights as well?

I am interested to hear about these 'dodgy practices' you speak of. I have written 10,000 words of my first book and when I finish I will look to self publish (as I'm writing it more for me and if I sell any copies it's a happy bonus!)

coppice

8,599 posts

144 months

Thursday 14th January 2016
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kazste said:
I have a friend who has a boom published and getting advice from them so here's hoping
Good sub editor is always useful....

anonymous-user

54 months

Friday 15th January 2016
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extraT said:
Congrats on the publication and potential follow up work! But I would imagine they would be keen to hold the e-rights as well?

I am interested to hear about these 'dodgy practices' you speak of. I have written 10,000 words of my first book and when I finish I will look to self publish (as I'm writing it more for me and if I sell any copies it's a happy bonus!)
Thank you, its a nice feeling to be the sole author on a journal article, nearest I have had before is second author and as lowly as 12th!

Your right they will want the digital rights, but I am hoping to negotiate that they have the print, and flat ebooks and I retain the rights to do the enriched ebooks as I can licence that to some big corporates and universities. 4 universities in the states are already interested so I need to get my finger out and get it authored.

Am happy to share my tales of dodgy practices, with the caveat that all my experience in the industry is in the STM sector rather than novels. Strange industry with some bizarre business models.




AJS-

15,366 posts

236 months

Sunday 21st February 2016
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Interesting thread.
I have a folder full of stubs and starts, plans and ideas. Never got any of them into anything like an actual book yet but working on them slowly.

Doofus

25,784 posts

173 months

Sunday 21st February 2016
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Regarding a post made a couple of pages ago, about self-publishing to get traction before getting picked up by a trad publisher.

If I have a trilogy, and I self-publish the first book, and let's say it's successful, would a publisher still look to pick up the other two, or would they just say that they'd missed the boat? Surely they wouldn't go to the expense of republishing a book which is already out there, and selling just to enable them to publish the other two?

coppice

8,599 posts

144 months

Sunday 21st February 2016
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I'd worry about that if your first one sells- it's a nice problem to have .But why not try a publisher now ?

Yertis

18,042 posts

266 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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Doofus said:
Regarding a post made a couple of pages ago, about self-publishing to get traction before getting picked up by a trad publisher.

If I have a trilogy, and I self-publish the first book, and let's say it's successful, would a publisher still look to pick up the other two, or would they just say that they'd missed the boat? Surely they wouldn't go to the expense of republishing a book which is already out there, and selling just to enable them to publish the other two?
If a mainstream publisher wants the trilogy they will just pick up the whole lot, and they'll certainly republish/repackage the first one. You will of course lose the control you enjoyed as a self-publisher, over things like how the cover looks, but its a small price to pay. Good luck.

Doofus

25,784 posts

173 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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coppice said:
I'd worry about that if your first one sells- it's a nice problem to have .But why not try a publisher now ?
I'm not at that stage yet. I was happily plodding along until I came upon this thread, which prompted my question. I'm not ready to scope out publishers yet, I'm 40,000 into my first draft; that's all.

NailedOn

3,114 posts

235 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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The relationship between an author and a publisher is via an agent.
Sending proofs direct to a publisher rarely works.

Yertis

18,042 posts

266 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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NailedOn said:
The relationship between an author and a publisher is via an agent.
Sending proofs direct to a publisher rarely works.
That's very true, but where a self-published book attracts a buzz a publisher might/can/will pick it up directly. Likewise a movie or TV production company, who might buy the rights directly.

coppice

8,599 posts

144 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2016
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It worked for me- twice .I am still not rich though, sadly...

Doofus

25,784 posts

173 months

Monday 23rd May 2016
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This seems like as good a thread as any for this question.

Let's say (although this is not the case), I have written a novel based at Hogwarts school, but with entierly different characters and events to the better known such novels. Or let's say (for, again, it is not actually so), that I have written a novel set on the USS Enterprise.

Would I be free to publish? There are a number of 'young James Bond' books out there, but I don't know if you need permission from somebody or not. I assume you would, but I don't know if that reqirement expires after the original has been in the public domain for a period of time.

coppice

8,599 posts

144 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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I would expect to hear from Sue, Grabbit and Run very quickly. The Bond books were all licensed by the Fleming estate I am sure. When I had a day job as a lawyer I remember talking to a London solicitor whose firm had carte blanche and unlimited funds to take action against anybody selling counterfeit merchandise from a popular kids' TV programme- assumed it was Ninja Turtles , who were big at the time. I suspect Ms Rowling would take a similarly robust approach .

Flip Martian

19,626 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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I can't imagine there's any way Rowling (or any other author) would let you use her/their property for a book of your own without permission.

Doofus

25,784 posts

173 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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Thanks both. I guess I need to write a grovelling letter, and hope that it isn't met with a 'No', suggesting I've wasted my time for the past year...

It's not Rowling, or Bond, by the way... wink

Flip Martian

19,626 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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Doofus said:
Thanks both. I guess I need to write a grovelling letter, and hope that it isn't met with a 'No', suggesting I've wasted my time for the past year...

It's not Rowling, or Bond, by the way... wink
You could always spend a bit of time changing any salient details? Might be cheaper. smile

Doofus

25,784 posts

173 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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Flip Martian said:
You could always spend a bit of time changing any salient details? Might be cheaper. smile
Easier said than done...

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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IIRC the "Fifty Shades..." books were originally erotic fan-fiction featuring the 'Twilight' characters, which the author had to hastily rewrite with her own characters when they started selling somewhat better than expected....

Doofus

25,784 posts

173 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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In my case, it's characters originally in a book over fifty years ago.

Flip Martian

19,626 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th May 2016
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Doofus said:
In my case, it's characters originally in a book over fifty years ago.
Doing that without permission would be intellectual property theft, I think. Best get writing that grovelling letter!