RE: Ford RS200

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Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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I drove one aged 17.

My dad had the onerous task of long-term road-testing a total of four to see what would break, and actually they were surprising reliable. I think he racked up the best part of 100k in them.

One blew a turbo pipe off, one had a blowout (cue major major spin that he drove away from - built like a tank), they got a bit hot in traffic, apart from that, I remember them being quite trouble-free.

Rob.

17,911 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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100k in RS200`s? Thats some going considering only 200 were made.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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That's a very broad guess based on the fact that he had them for about three years and was doing about 30k a year at that time.

sniff diesel

13,107 posts

213 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Is this the most randomly revived thread ever?

accident

582 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Johnnytheboy said:
I drove one aged 17.

My dad had the onerous task of long-term road-testing a total of four to see what would break, and actually they were surprising reliable. I think he racked up the best part of 100k in them.

One blew a turbo pipe off, one had a blowout (cue major major spin that he drove away from - built like a tank), they got a bit hot in traffic, apart from that, I remember them being quite trouble-free.
rs200?
in what 3 years did this happen?
long term road test on 4 homologation specials ?
built like a tank? with plastic bodywork.
rs200 are you sure?

Zad

12,704 posts

237 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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The plastic bodywork is just that - bodywork. Not the tubular steel chassis.

Rob.

17,911 posts

219 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Johnnytheboy said:
That's a very broad guess based on the fact that he had them for about three years and was doing about 30k a year at that time.
He had RS200`s for 3 years at 30k a year? Mmmm, too late for a custard test I suppose.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Believe me, I mean RS200s. From about 1987 to 1990. Three white ones (two admittedly for very short periods, at least one was LHD) and finally a red one. He worked freelance for Ford Motorsport at that time, and he and a bloke called Bob Howe ran them as road cars. I'm not sure if any payment was offered, lol. My abiding memory was the tinkling noise when idling which sounded like someone had poured nails in to the gearbox, and the fact I stalled it about ten times on the one occasion I was allowed to drive one.

After that he had a series of Sapphire and Escort Cosworth company cars from them. I drove the latter, but I can't remember driving the former.

accident

582 posts

257 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Johnnytheboy said:
Believe me, I mean RS200s. From about 1987 to 1990. Three white ones (two admittedly for very short periods, at least one was LHD) and finally a red one. He worked freelance for Ford Motorsport at that time, and he and a bloke called Bob Howe ran them as road cars. I'm not sure if any payment was offered, lol. My abiding memory was the tinkling noise when idling which sounded like someone had poured nails in to the gearbox, and the fact I stalled it about ten times on the one occasion I was allowed to drive one.

After that he had a series of Sapphire and Escort Cosworth company cars from them. I drove the latter, but I can't remember driving the former.
so the year after the rs200 was banned the production run had long finished and they already had type approval and ford had moved onto the rs500 and the 3 door cosworth your dad had 4 rs200's to just test for the next 3 years?
it dosnt sound realistic.

Alfa_75_Steve

7,489 posts

201 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Hmmmm, the RS200 story sounds very odd.

Only 4 red cars officially released by Ford and Johnnytheboy claims to have driven one just after passing his test.

All red cars were released long after Group B was cancelled and only painted red to try and sell the unsold stock.

Sounds too far-fetched to be true.

BigBen

11,648 posts

231 months

Wednesday 29th October 2008
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Alfa_75_Steve said:
Hmmmm, the RS200 story sounds very odd.

Only 4 red cars officially released by Ford and Johnnytheboy claims to have driven one just after passing his test.

All red cars were released long after Group B was cancelled and only painted red to try and sell the unsold stock.

Sounds too far-fetched to be true.
Bob Howe as mentioned in the post was one of the main men in the RS200 project and ran his cars for those kind of milages so might not be so far fetched

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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<Sigh>

Ask yourselves what possible motive I would have for making it up. It's not like I stand to make any money....

Go to http://www.rs200.org/

I don't appear to be able to post a specific link, but use the chassis list down the left to choose #073 & #192 and click on them.

My old man is the chap named in the text accompanying each picture (#192 is the fourth and final car he had, and the one I drove, which IIRC was the first red one), and also the author of the Fast Ford article mentioned, in his capacity as a motoring author.

As a secondary check, google his name or stick into Amazon.

I don't have a scanner, but if you all still randomly don't believe me I can photo some of the pictures I took back then of them which I have somewhere around still.

EDIT: Having looked closely at the pics accompanying Car 073, a couple are clearly from my Dad's article as the backgrounds are from his home village of Burton Bradstock (the one with the white finger post sign in saying West Bay).

Edited by Johnnytheboy on Thursday 30th October 08:44

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

252 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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Johnnytheboy said:
<Sigh>

Ask yourselves what possible motive I would have for making it up. It's not like I stand to make any money....

Go to http://www.rs200.org/

I don't appear to be able to post a specific link, but use the chassis list down the left to choose #073 & #192 and click on them.

My old man is the chap named in the text accompanying each picture (#192 is the fourth and final car he had, and the one I drove, which IIRC was the first red one), and also the author of the Fast Ford article mentioned, in his capacity as a motoring author.

As a secondary check, google his name or stick into Amazon.

I don't have a scanner, but if you all still randomly don't believe me I can photo some of the pictures I took back then of them which I have somewhere around still.

EDIT: Having looked closely at the pics accompanying Car 073, a couple are clearly from my Dad's article as the backgrounds are from his home village of Burton Bradstock (the one with the white finger post sign in saying West Bay).

Edited by Johnnytheboy on Thursday 30th October 08:44
I have just figured out who you are....

I tried to send you an e-mail.

If I am correct you went to Imperial College and your Fiesta broke down at the City & Guilds Cadwell Park Track Day. We used my RAC membership to get it sent back home.

I also recall you being quite tall but as I am short that tends to describe most people 6 foot and above.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Thursday 30th October 2008
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Yep, that's me!

Do you know the Fiesta soldiered on until 2000 when it suffered a Viking funeral care of the youth of Ealing? God, I miss that car...

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

252 months

Friday 31st October 2008
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So you must have stayed on for a PhD?

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Friday 31st October 2008
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Ho ho ho.... no, I was a terrible student! I got a job in London after uni; moved back to SW in 2002.

Trying to remember what car you had at Cadwell (which I've still got all the pics of somewhere); memory is saying a Triumph of some kind?

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

252 months

Friday 31st October 2008
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Should have been a Triumph Dolomite Sprint with a cage, registration RBC920M.

I really miss that car.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

187 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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Finally a year+ later I got round to scanning a picture of the red RS200 my old man ran for a couple of years, just to try and prove my crazy story. Got more if anyone is interested, though most are a bit blurry, having been scanned!




dome

687 posts

258 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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Nice to see the apologies from the people who doubted you originally...

CO2000

3,177 posts

210 months

Saturday 2nd January 2010
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Did the Doctor Who episodes remind you to return biggrin

Nice of you to do so though & what a great story - very cool