Fastest car for 5k?

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Fatboy

7,971 posts

271 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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ICSD said:
You'd definitely find a Porsche 944 for this money which totally fits the bill.

Definately - especially with a budget of £10k you could get a very nice 944 turbo (951)....

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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iaint said:
Even when hooning a complete tank it's ~17mpg at worst for me and motorway gives up ~24.


very contrasting tales here... makes an interesting read, as one set of figures has me thinking "bloody hell, I can't afford to run a car like that.." whilst the other gets "hmm.. that's not so bad, and they're Sooooo gorgeous and perfect in every other way.."

there really are VERY few cars that fit this bill, as I'm after the same thing, although I'm probably unlikely to go drifting (will do a few trackdays though), so don't mind spending a bit more...

968's are the only real alternative I've found.. but there's very little tuning scope, and I'd be worried I'd get too used to 240bhp in a 1400kg car.. any owners care to comment? (also porsche servicing costs might be a scare?)

MILF

1,209 posts

244 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Nissan Pulsar GTiR. Coming from Bradford as I do, there are loads of these things about. Appreciate its an import & "only" has about 220bhp, but in view of the massive power increases you can get on 300ZX, Skylines or even 200SX, wouldnt be difficult to boost it upto 300bhp.

Doesnt seem to have quite the same baggage as either an early Evo or Imprezza either.

Pierscoe1

2,458 posts

260 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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iain, what ECU are you running, and any other mods to get that kind of mpg?

every time I hear figures like the ones you gave, it makes me reconsider..

TURBO II

58 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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what about an E30 M3 ? - def in price range and will give a big smile on track or road and it looks the nuts!

dern

14,055 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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TURBO II said:
what about an E30 M3 ? - def in price range and will give a big smile on track or road and it looks the nuts!
I don't know if insurance is an issue but when I've looked at all these alternatives the mrt is miles cheaper to insure than the others and the m3 was a lot more expensive (although much will depend on your own circumstances).

Mark

TURBO II

58 posts

230 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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dern said:

TURBO II said:
what about an E30 M3 ? - def in price range and will give a big smile on track or road and it looks the nuts!

I don't know if insurance is an issue but when I've looked at all these alternatives the mrt is miles cheaper to insure than the others and the m3 was a lot more expensive (although much will depend on your own circumstances).

Mark


there must be classic insurance for these now which will keep the cost down.

dern

14,055 posts

278 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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TURBO II said:
there must be classic insurance for these now which will keep the cost down.
You can get pretty much all of these on a classic policy of one kind or another but classic policies are cheaper because you're limited in the usage of the car. If you want to commute in it or do more than 3k miles a year the price of any classic policy slowly approaches the normal policy price... at least that's how they price up in my experience anyway. If you can find a policy that works though then they do look good fun while being practical.

Mark

Pulsatingstar

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1,715 posts

247 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Iain - Im on Knightsports ECU, not piggyback butits not mappable. 1 bar boost. Id might 17mpg on the Motorway (maybe), but generally its averaging around 12-13mpg. Maybe a PFC and re-map would help, but then im looking at a grand to do that and it might not be any better and Id rather F-Con Pro than PFC which is even more money. Then to track it I need to upgrade the fuel system as I know its not right too so its going to pour in even more lol.

Pulsar GTiR - Ive already had one for a couple of years. Id have another, but the image is really bad now and its 4WD.

Ive been out in an E30 M3 and wasnt impressed, but might conceed that this would be very different if I actually got to drive one. Do like how they look. Not keen on the E36 at all.

cptsideways

13,535 posts

251 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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iaint said:

Pulsatingstar said:
the RX7 is ok but single figure MPG makes it really expensive to use everyday.



I can't understand how you get such poor mileage from yours...

Even when hooning a complete tank it's ~17mpg at worst for me and motorway gives up ~24.



Any chance your odometer is still reading in KM's not miles catches an awful lot of people out that one!

If so that'd make yours 10.4mpg & 14.7mpg which is a lot more realistic for a rotory.

silverback mike

11,290 posts

252 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Bedford Rascal said:
944

"Silverback Mike" is thinking of flogging his 944 to buy a TVR S-Series. You could pre-empt him and get in there quick. I'd imagine it won't be too much as he bought it from a salvage place with v. minor damage....



Ta daaa

944, best car ever made.....especially grey ones with cream leather...nudge nudge.

ok, Maybe not the best car ever made, and won't bend your face in a straight line but around the twisties they are fantastic fun, reliable as clockwork too.
If you would like a go in mine feel free to give me a call off forum....see my profile for details on the old girl.

I will be looking for a heck of a lot less than 5k. Wink wink...

silverback mike

11,290 posts

252 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Thank you Mr rascal...

iaint

10,040 posts

237 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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cptsideways said:

iaint said:

Even when hooning a complete tank it's ~17mpg at worst for me and motorway gives up ~24.


Any chance your odometer is still reading in KM's not miles catches an awful lot of people out that one!

If so that'd make yours 10.4mpg & 14.7mpg which is a lot more realistic for a rotory.


Definately reading miles. Either that or Le Mans is a lot closer than the map say...

bad_roo

5,187 posts

236 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Another vote for the MR2 Turbo. 300bhp easily reliably achievable for £5k.

iaint

10,040 posts

237 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Pierscoe1 said:

iaint said:
Even when hooning a complete tank it's ~17mpg at worst for me and motorway gives up ~24.

very contrasting tales here... makes an interesting read, as one set of figures has me thinking "bloody hell, I can't afford to run a car like that.." whilst the other gets "hmm.. that's not so bad, and they're Sooooo gorgeous and perfect in every other way.."


It depends from car to car, on the mapping and how you drive. They are beautiful - not a lot else is in the same league for the money.

Pierscoe1 said:
there really are VERY few cars that fit this bill, as I'm after the same thing, although I'm probably unlikely to go drifting (will do a few trackdays though), so don't mind spending a bit more...

968's are the only real alternative I've found.. but there's very little tuning scope, and I'd be worried I'd get too used to 240bhp in a 1400kg car.. any owners care to comment? (also porsche servicing costs might be a scare?)


It is scary how quickly one gets used to power. When I got the car it was close to standard (just had a cat-back stainless exhaust) and it was scary-fast. Then I got used to it.

Now I've had a few mods and it's putting out 300bhp and it was scary-fast again. Now I'm used to it.

1 bar of boost and 3k of mods should sort that out though and it's back to brown trousers again.

FDs are a bit lighter than 968s - around 125+ kg.

iaint

10,040 posts

237 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Pierscoe1 said:
iain, what ECU are you running, and any other mods to get that kind of mpg?

every time I hear figures like the ones you gave, it makes me reconsider..


All the mods are in my profile but a summary is:

Apexi PFC ECU
'Street' ported rebuilt engine.
De-Catted (slienced mid-pipe) and cat-back.
Apexi power intake.

THat's all for power but there's the breaks and suspension on top of that.

There are a few very nice FDs for sale including a few beasties at decent prices with rebuilt engines at the mo too...

tempt tempt

chrisbr68

4,121 posts

247 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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When I have the money in a year or twos time (fingers crossed) I want to get an MR2, so heres another vote.

GKP

15,099 posts

240 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Renault Alpine GTA V6 Turbo. Long name, but a competent car. You can just about squeeze 4 people in one, too.

deckster

9,630 posts

254 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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Fiat Coupe 20VT - 220 bhp standard but not too hard to get it to 300+. FWD is the only real downside but cracking cars, and 4 seats into the bargain.

SteA

251 posts

225 months

Thursday 2nd June 2005
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shadowninja said:

Pulsatingstar said:


shadowninja said:
Shoulda got an S13




Maybe true, but I didnt want a CA. And at the time I only got the S14 as a stop gap while the FD was broken, and just ended up keeping it.



What's wrong with the CA engine? I hear a lot of people putting the CA in the S14.


Do you actually know anyone who has? Why would you? Less power, less reliability etc. Oh, and I do love S13's, but dont see why anyone would replace the SR20DET with the CA lump....
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