Pics of 27 litre Rolls Royce Meteor engine installation

Pics of 27 litre Rolls Royce Meteor engine installation

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GreenV8S

30,208 posts

285 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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Al Rush said:


The 2 fans are from an Iveco, and Charley did the rad himself. It was running before, and seemed fine. I suppose town traffic would balls it up, but normal runs out don't present any snags.



If you have any grief then one way to absolutely nail it is to put a water spray on the front of the rad. A couple of gallons of water produces a huge amount of evaporative cooling.

F.M

5,816 posts

221 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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It should be on top gear when it`s finished..it`s that good.

AL666

2,679 posts

219 months

Saturday 4th March 2006
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I've just watched the video, I'm disappointed it didn't get revved though

Chris-B

5 posts

219 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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Sadly it couldnt be reved due to the fact it was running on propane with the pipe just stuffed up the inlet manifold there was no propane control what so ever, well apart from turning on the valve , so if the throttle had been opened it would have just stalled itself.

The custom built injection system is a work of art though !!!

ChrisB

morrisman

264 posts

219 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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AL666 said:
The way I understood it about the car needing to be on a Q plate was that if it still had at least TWO major components from the original car, it can still be called the original car...


There is actually a series of points you accrue for keeping the origial components of your car, but merely modifying the chassis or monocoque bodywork automatically renders you eligible for SVA. I can't imagine the V12 car has stock axles, or any other major components, and the monocoque is obviously modified. SVA candidate for sure.

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

220 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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Fair point. The car was MoT'd last 3 years or so ago, and was ok then. The DVLA is always fettling and things may well have moved on since, cheers.

Zad

12,703 posts

237 months

Sunday 5th March 2006
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Ebay has a couple more R-R engines for sale *cough*.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ROLLS-ROYCE-VIP

No free power turbine though, so strictly only straight-line "assistance".

Fun though

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

220 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Mike,



I like where you're coming from. But you're a bad, bad man .

Ted,

Please remove that post right this second, I don't want Charley to see it.

Thinks: Seriously for a moment, if that one's pristine and its up for 10k or so, then for quite a bit less wedge, there must be many more out there, just as usable (scratches chin thoughtfully). Does anyone know of anyone who's done a DIY jet implant?

>> Edited by Al Rush on Monday 6th March 06:18

oi_oi_savaloy

2,313 posts

261 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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I bought PPC over the weekend and I am a total convert! A brilliant magazine and some great articles. I was particularly taken with the Cosworth into Ciquencento (spelling) and the flat four engine articles.

I don't suppose you plan on doing an article on the K series? (or has it already been done?)

Some of the staff's cars articles were excellent too; oh, and the cosworth into Mk II escort; all excellent. I'm going to cancel my evo subscription and transfer over.......

morrisman

264 posts

219 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Al Rush said:
Fair point. The car was MoT'd last 3 years or so ago, and was ok then. The DVLA is always fettling and things may well have moved on since, cheers.


Unfortunately, these current regs have been in place nine years now, though most guys who have an already registered car don't bother paying much attention to them when they rebuild it or modify it like the Merlin engined beastie in this thread.

Currently, with the advent of computerised MOT stations, there are DVLA plans afoot to tighten up the whole inspection process, meaning MOT examiners are going to be checking out each car at MOT time to make sure it doesn't differ from original manufacturers spec in any great way. If it does they are obliged to 'flag' your car and VOSA may well pop round to have a lookee see. If they see a different engine in it: VOSA, a different axle: VOSA.Suspension mods: VOSA. Bodyshell mods: VOSA.

The NSRA (National Street Rod Association) are in deep conflab with DVLA about this (the new regs are still open to discussion and negotiation) as it means a whole lot more to guys who build radically modified cars than it does to the guys who just fit body kits and loud stereos.

An awful lot of car magazines, businesses and clubs seem to be ignoring the whole problem, hoping it will go away. They argue that it won't affect their cars. No it won't, yet. But does anybody think the DVLA will be content with halting major modifications? Does anybody think that the major manufacturers are happy to let people work on and modify their cars?

The answer is a big NO. They won't be happy until we are all driving two years old bog stock cars, with ALL maintenance done at a registered dealer, no tuning, no modifications, nothing.



Al Rush

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4,761 posts

220 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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Cheers Paul, good points.

We approached our local VOSA (Peterborough) who advised us of the position, and they are aware of the state of the car. In keeping with many other magazines, we are actively campaigning for clarification of new proposed guidelines. They affect many of our cars too, and seem to be regulation, for regulation's sake.

I hear a great many perspectives, and this one from a major retailer last week, made me pause for thought. A 19 year old can buy some big brake kit in the morning, jack up his Saxo on the lawn on Saturday morning, and by tea, have a modification which affects safety. As it stands, who checks those?

I am all for greater involvement by MoT stations, they are (by in large) very experienced people, they know a shoddy fit when they see it and should be allowed to call on their judgement more often, as long as they're accountable. Its good that potential deathtraps are being highlighted, but my personal perspective is that all too often, centralised regulation for its own sake, means an end to freedom of choice and without regard to a proper risk analysis.

Rule books are for the obediance of fools and the guidance of wise men.

Al Rush

Original Poster:

4,761 posts

220 months

Monday 6th March 2006
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oi_oi_savaloy said:
I bought PPC over the weekend and I am a total convert! A brilliant magazine and some great articles. I was particularly taken with the Cosworth into Ciquencento (spelling) and the flat four engine articles.

I don't suppose you plan on doing an article on the K series? (or has it already been done?)

Some of the staff's cars articles were excellent too; oh, and the cosworth into Mk II escort; all excellent. I'm going to cancel my evo subscription and transfer over.......


.. thanks for that, glad you liked it.

Sorry.. too late, we've already done the 'K'. But if you drop me an e-mail, I'll send you the pdf's of the feature.

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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We've decided that we want to have a crack at putting nitrous in Charlie's Rover (it'd be rude not to). Does anyone have any tips? Any good stockists?

It'll be at the Festival of Speed if anyone's interested.

Cheers.

rhyds

95 posts

218 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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27 litre engine, with nitrous?

There must be an EU rulling against such a thing

F.M

5,816 posts

221 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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I`m sure a progressive system will be easier on the engine...I`m not sure dumping it in a 27 litre engine is good for the pants....0-soiled in 1.5secs...

klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

256 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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rhyds said:
27 litre engine, with nitrous?

There must be an EU rulling against such a thing

As long as it doesn't make the world turn faster (or slower): Great idea!

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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rhyds said:
27 litre engine, with nitrous?

There must be an EU rulling against such a thing


Probably not as yet, which is why we have to do it.. quickly.

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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F.M said:
I`m sure a progressive system will be easier on the engine...I`m not sure dumping it in a 27 litre engine is good for the pants....0-soiled in 1.5secs...


Yup, doing a few calcs.. it could mean time travel.

morrisman

264 posts

219 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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Al Rush said:
Cheers Paul, good points.

We approached our local VOSA (Peterborough) who advised us of the position, and they are aware of the state of the car. In keeping with many other magazines, we are actively campaigning for clarification of new proposed guidelines. They affect many of our cars too, and seem to be regulation, for regulation's sake.

I hear a great many perspectives, and this one from a major retailer last week, made me pause for thought. A 19 year old can buy some big brake kit in the morning, jack up his Saxo on the lawn on Saturday morning, and by tea, have a modification which affects safety. As it stands, who checks those?

I am all for greater involvement by MoT stations, they are (by in large) very experienced people, they know a shoddy fit when they see it and should be allowed to call on their judgement more often, as long as they're accountable. Its good that potential deathtraps are being highlighted, but my personal perspective is that all too often, centralised regulation for its own sake, means an end to freedom of choice and without regard to a proper risk analysis.

Rule books are for the obediance of fools and the guidance of wise men.


Al, another example of the 'foolishness' (for want of a better word) of the current regs is that a guy could drop, say, a big block Chevy into a stock Ford Pop and drive it fully legally, as long as he didn't uprate the chassis, brakes, axles and suspension. No SVA required there. Maybe a frontal lobotomy, but no SVA.

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

220 months

Wednesday 8th March 2006
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.. indeed, and that Pop would have suicide door handles too, which could easily rupture the femoral artery of someone they met at 40 mph. This type of legislation doesn't recognise proper risk assessment and is another example of Nanny State-ism.

I am all for improving safety and getting cowboys off the road, but this won't discriminate against just cowboys, it will affect everyone.

Invariably, modified cars are done as a labour of love, done properly and are at least as safe as many other normal 20 year old cars. Those endeavours won't be recognised by these faceless civil servants, but penalised. We, the motorists, will pay. Again.

>> Edited by Al Rush on Wednesday 8th March 21:19