Pics of 27 litre Rolls Royce Meteor engine installation

Pics of 27 litre Rolls Royce Meteor engine installation

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klassiekerrally

2,543 posts

255 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Al Rush said:
We bought a Shadow 1 the other week

As in RR Silver Shadow?
I can't wait to hear some soundbites!

trackcar

6,453 posts

226 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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they're all mad at PPC .. in the nicest possible way .. great to see OTT engineering like this still alive and well .. *drool*

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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thetruemackie said:
What about retro thrusters or maybe an arrestor hook and cables at the end of the runway :P
Seem appropriate somehow

Seriously that's an awesome project. Out of interest what kind of power and torque does the meteor make and at what RPMs?

What gearbox and final drive are you using?



The box is from an XJ-6, and the drive is from a F150 pick up. The Meteor, in standard tune, it puts out 620 hp, at a lazy 2550 rpm. The ecu is a custom made one.

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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klassiekerrally said:
Al Rush said:
We bought a Shadow 1 the other week

As in RR Silver Shadow?
I can't wait to hear some soundbites!


Yup, thats the one. It'll sound good, because the stock items steal sooo much power, so we'll put a couple of straight throughs in. We'll keep the rear bench in, for getting there in style, but the front will have to come out.

r988

7,495 posts

229 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Now all you need is someone with a Merc 450SEL running a DB601 to race you

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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That'd work. You er, know of someone?

360boy

1,828 posts

222 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Wouldn't the world be dull if there weren't any eccentrics like this.
Totally mad!

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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.. it'd be a lot quieter, thats for sure.

flossythepig

4,083 posts

243 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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John Dodd first used that engine in a road car. I believe the transmission was a one off auto box.

A bit of googling revealed
www.migweb.co.uk/forums/printthread.php?t=167947

Hugh

thetruemackie

8,153 posts

233 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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How about a drag race between this and Jay Leno's tank car?



He uses a truck transmission for that though so it might stand up to the punishment better.

goodlife

1,852 posts

259 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Magnificent effort

Al Rush said:
Brakes are from an XK-R.. at the moment.
I hope those are the Brembo XKR brakes. My old XKR had the standard brakes and they were not up to much, overheating badly when 'pressing on'. The tell-tale pedal-judder would happen as soon as they got warm.

At the end of each run at V-MAX the brake fluid was boiling and spewing out the overflow pipe - and that was with uprated brake fluid.

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Thanks Danny, I'll pass that on. Love the Henley/Wallingford road..

r988

7,495 posts

229 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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thetruemackie said:
How about a drag race between this and Jay Leno's tank car?



He uses a truck transmission for that though so it might stand up to the punishment better.


He also has an old Rolls with a Merlin as well, lucky bar steward

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Didn't know that, nice.

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

276 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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flossythepig said:
John Dodd first used that engine in a road car. I believe the transmission was a one off auto box.


There is so much rubbish printed about the 'Dodds' that people are now starting to believe it.

The car was built by Paul Jammison from Dorking in Surrey, it had a Meteor tank engine and as a beautiful rolling chassis sat on Minilite wheels, transmission was via two Jaguar boxes to give a useable rev range with available final drives. Paul, King of Merlins, never fitted a body. Dodds, a wizard with slush boxes who lived in Epsom bought the bolide from Paul and fitted it with a stretched glass fibre Capri body made by FGR Mouldings of Shortlands in Kent. The super wheels were replaced by vulgar Woolferace wheels and a facsimile Roller radiaror grill fitted. Insufficient and inadequate maintenance progressively reduced the car to an oil dropping heap. It was rebuilt after the widely reported fire and eventually Dodds took it with him to Spain. There was a story that it was destroyed in an Autobahn crash at a speed greatly above that possible with the transmission Dodds had fitted but many years later Dodds was still phoning Paul for technical advice, like Mark Twain the stories of the Beasts death were greatly exaggerated.

Paul built a six wheeler fitted with a proper S/C Merlin, it was shown on the Autocar stand at the Earls Court Motor Show and later moved to a Swedish Museum, that car could really crack 200mph, Paul was working on a roadable Merlin powered car at the time of early and tragic death, his wife described him to me as an English Eccentric, how very true, a gentleman 'professor'and a long time hero of mine.

Alas even Paul cannot claim to be the father of the first Merlin/Meteor car, sprint enthusiasts of a certain age will be familiar with the Swandean Special, the Triangle Special in its later form and a number of others.

I love the idea of the SD1 Meteor and applaud it's execution, I'm sure Paul would have loved it too although its perhaps a little low key for John Dodds.

PS I'm not anti Dodds, he did wonders with auto boxes, I had loads of fun in a 1293S with a Dodds modified Autobox.

ZR1cliff

17,999 posts

249 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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lazyitus said:
for a full 10 minutes, standing up.

BLOODY brilliant!


Same here,what a fantastic project and one i will look out for

Mr E

21,616 posts

259 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Al Rush said:
The Meteor, in standard tune, it puts out 620 hp, at a lazy 2550 rpm. The ecu is a custom made one.


I've just worked out how much torque it needs to produce 600+ bhp at 2500 rpm.

Two things;
1) You're going to need *monster* gearing
2) It will pull your house down.

johnjr

4,775 posts

223 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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ZR1cliff said:
lazyitus said:
for a full 10 minutes, standing up.

BLOODY brilliant!


Same here,what a fantastic project and one i will look out for






That looks Incredible

God..I'd love to hear that running

Good Luck with such an amazing project

john

Fat Audi 80

2,403 posts

251 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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johnjr said:
ZR1cliff said:
lazyitus said:
for a full 10 minutes, standing up.

BLOODY brilliant!


Same here,what a fantastic project and one i will look out for






That looks Incredible

God..I'd love to hear that running

Good Luck with such an amazing project

john




Do you know what, even in the pictures you can tell charlie is a laid back smooth operator

Brilliant.

Is there a website for this build?

Cheers,

Steve

Al Rush

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4,761 posts

219 months

Monday 20th February 2006
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Mr E said:
Al Rush said:
The Meteor, in standard tune, it puts out 620 hp, at a lazy 2550 rpm. The ecu is a custom made one.


I've just worked out how much torque it needs to produce 600+ bhp at 2500 rpm.

Two things;
1) You're going to need *monster* gearing
2) It will pull your house down.



It has a Hi Stall Torque Converter from Summit Racing (USA) at the back, and between that and the engine, lives an epicyclic gear train from a Leyland Leapord bus (doesn't everyone have one?). Because the engine redlines at around 2,500 rpm, the gear train generates more power. It 'accepts' 1 rpm in (from the engine) and pushes 3 rpm out, back towards the torque converter, to ensure that houses stay vertical.