Greatest all weather point-to-point car?
Discussion
Nick J said:
if you dont see the relevance im not sure i can help you. let me try spelling it out. in slippery conditions 4wd is vastly better than 2wd, thats why race cars that race in slippery conditions use it.
Cant remember the last time I saw a 4WD F1 car in the wet
Or the WRC disconnecting the 4WD in the dry tarmac stages
your confused? i have no idea what point you are attempting to make. 2wd is faster than 4wd in slippery conditions? if thats your point you are wrong and we will have to agree to disagree.
I see we are still getting 2WD suggestions. To reply to the latest suggestion of 111R: no, no and no. I owned one and it is MUCH slower than a prodrive impreza on cross country roads. A prodirve is slower than an Evo. An Evo is slower than a 996TT. A 996TT is slower than an RS200 group B. Hopefully a pattern is emerging...
There is no place on the list for a 2WD car. Even if it has ten billion bhp and weighs the same as a hydrogen atom. It's called grip.
There is no place on the list for a 2WD car. Even if it has ten billion bhp and weighs the same as a hydrogen atom. It's called grip.
Bada Bing! said:
As eveyone seems to be to reduced to opinions based on someone elses opinions here is one from personal experience:
Toyota Celica GT4 (ST185)
Competent car, but not enough power for today's competition. I'd suggest a 111R, personally. One of the fastest chassis through the corners money can buy, good power/weight ratio, and not too silly that it'll spin in the rain when driven moderately hard.
I would have volounteered the S2000, but in the rain it's a bit of a handful unless you know how to handle it, and on cold tyres it's a liability!
Which brings me back to the point I made earlier about point to point - it depends what's between the points.
When someone says point to point I think of country lanes. And for this it was ideal. Supple suspension, relatively narrow and compliant tyres and adequate power (225 on 5*) made it very safe and confidence enspiring in the lanes.
touchingcloth said:
Or a Starmist Blue 450 Chim
Claire
I'd like to see that!
Combover
Ahh but you would only hear her as I would be gone in the blink of an eye
Claire
Into the hedge ??
Probably..! Actually the dunlops are bloody sticky tires in wet/icy conditions. They are just slippy in the dry.
Go Figure...!
Claire
francisb said:
if you dont see the relevance im not sure i can help you. let me try spelling it out. in slippery conditions 4wd is vastly better than 2wd, thats why race cars that race in slippery conditions use it.
Cant remember the last time I saw a 4WD F1 car in the wet
Or the WRC disconnecting the 4WD in the dry tarmac stages
your confused? i have no idea what point you are attempting to make. 2wd is faster than 4wd in slippery conditions? if thats your point you are wrong and we will have to agree to disagree.
chill dude, just joking, as previously stated I think the 911 Turbo S and its largely to do with the 4WD.Gaffer said:
Probably..! Actually the dunlops are bloody sticky tires in wet/icy conditions. They are just slippy in the dry.
Go Figure...!
Claire
Hmmmmm I may I have to do some scientific testing to figure that one out for you (really, don't thank me it's no bother)... Just drop it round at my house and I'll get back to you... 
C
>> Edited by combover on Wednesday 22 March 17:24
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