RE: Melling to launch £100,000 supercar

RE: Melling to launch £100,000 supercar

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wesleyarthur

20 posts

216 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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"Let's see something special for £50K and I then am all ears and cheque book at the ready."

You might want to check out www.borncars.com. I think they are going to be offering something for around or just under £50K in 2007

Email them.

dinkel

26,965 posts

259 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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Petrol_Noggin

3,046 posts

221 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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tbh good on all the people coming up with new supercars, we went through a serious drought of supercars not long ago and in the face of growing power given to those wearing sandles and eating lentils, I think what we need is more big power cars.

As for wanting more cars for the 50k mark, supercars really should be something you think you never can afford, the ferraris and lamborginis of the 70's would not be half as exciting if they were affordable to the masses and you saw one on every street corner. Besides there are a few thousand members who are interested in this price range.

dean_ratpac

1,582 posts

279 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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isn't the AJP8 block a 'cut-down' version of the V10 anyways? you can see at the back of the block was shortened.

ATG

20,625 posts

273 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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Petrol_Noggin said:
tbh good on all the people coming up with new supercars
hear, hear. Must say I think AM is getting a rough ride here. I can understand that his involvement in the S6 debate over the last few months has made people a bit partisan, but it does seem odd how one minute most people seem to think he's a knight in shining armour, and a few months later most people think he's a nut ... when precisely nothing material seems to have happened in between to warrant the opinion swing.

dinkel

26,965 posts

259 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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dean_ratpac said:
isn't the AJP8 block a 'cut-down' version of the V10 anyways? you can see at the back of the block was shortened.


Modulair as is this one.

autocraft said:
ive asked al melling if he can let us have some pictures
regards dave


Ah, good news . . .

richb

51,642 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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dean_ratpac said:
isn't the AJP8 block a 'cut-down' version of the V10 anyways? you can see at the back of the block was shortened.
What? Like there's a flat plate where the bell-housing bolts on? That's novel

sideways mostly

2,681 posts

242 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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Can't comment on the engine-maybe its new,maybe its the old modular design revisited. The body is an ugly fugger-needs a complete redesign IMHO.Plus a simple race car cabin won't cut it at £100,000.

GTRene

16,609 posts

225 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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the story says;

It'll be in a familiar format: front-engined, rear-wheel-drive using a carbon fibre monocoque body and chassis, independent wishbone suspension and a six speed trans-axle said to be inspired by the Chevy Corvette. Its weight will be some 1,200Kg and, as a result, performance is likely to be stunning, with 60mph coming up in an F1-rivalling 2.8 seconds, and a Vmax of 200mph-plus.

I'm glad to live close to the German border when you can buy such car its good to have a road to drive it on...
But even if you don't have those nice German autobahn's driving from low mph to the max speedlimit is big fun to
GTRene

andyf

72 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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I thought this chap was designing a 1.5 litre V8 sports car. What happened to that?

Big plans, no substance?

TUSC-AL

595 posts

227 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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JR said:
mindgam3 said:
JR said:
Harry Flashman said:
He'll have to design the engine rather better than he did TVR's Speed Six - absolute shambles. Grenade of a thing.

As a lawyer I guess that you have a good basis and defence for that statement.

Yes, you'll find a lot of it in the TVR forums of this website :P

You'll find a lot about the TVR Speed Six problems but not about the AJP6; the differences appear to be quite significant. Thus Flashman's first statement in incorrect and it just gets worse.


The first total Melling designed SP6 is yet to roll out of Autocraft, before you call it a shambles or grenade.

>> Edited by TUSC-AL on Wednesday 10th May 16:42

tonto

2,983 posts

249 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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dick dastardly said:
"Melling Hellcat" - is it just me or does that sound pretty silly?




Would have thought that "MellyCat" sounds a bit snapier

Or even "SmellyCat" (hmm, wasn't there a song about that?)

RichardD

3,560 posts

246 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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andyf said:
I thought this chap was designing a 1.5 litre V8 sports car. ...
Thought that that engine was for a 200mph motorbike?

dean_ratpac

1,582 posts

279 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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richb said:
dean_ratpac said:
isn't the AJP8 block a 'cut-down' version of the V10 anyways? you can see at the back of the block was shortened.
What? Like there's a flat plate where the bell-housing bolts on? That's novel

more looks like where they shortened the mould.

richb

51,642 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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dean_ratpac said:
richb said:
dean_ratpac said:
isn't the AJP8 block a 'cut-down' version of the V10 anyways? you can see at the back of the block was shortened.
What? Like there's a flat plate where the bell-housing bolts on? That's novel

more looks like where they shortened the mould.
Oh... :Scratchchin: what, there's bit's of sprue like on those Airfix kits. Sounds sort of right for TVR...

jamieheasman

823 posts

285 months

Wednesday 10th May 2006
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I believe Al Melling has made an announcement like this in the past via Autocar. He was planning a 1.5 V8 lightweight sportcar (like a coupe version of the Elise) and V12 Supercar (I think) and a luxurious saloon. This must have been eight to ten years ago and nothing came of it.

The engine for the Norton bike was up and running as they had video of it on their website being dyno'd and in a prototype chassis. Given the popularity of bike-derived small capacity V8s of late, it would seem the perfect time to re-introduce it.

The AJP8 is a truly magnificent engine (and yes, it's based on a modular design so could easily be adapted to V6, V10 and V12 configurations) and I suspect if Mr Melling had been the one to continue the development of the Speed 6 engine (note the different naming convention) instead of Mr Ravenscroft it would have turned out a lot more reliable. Remember most of the teething problems they had with the original AJP8s was associated with making it a wet-sump engine with tons of ancilleries bolted to it - none of which were in the original design! Al Melling has a huge reputation in the industry with major motor manufacturers.

I for one am hoping that this time he delivers!

Stin Hambo

627 posts

238 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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TUSC-AL said:


The first total Melling designed SP6 is yet to roll out of Autocraft, before you call it a shambles or grenade.

>> Edited by TUSC-AL on Wednesday 10th May 16:42


Will Autocraft be producing a Melling only SP6?

robdickinson

31,343 posts

255 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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A Custom (hand built?) v10 to 700bhp plus a carbon body for £100k I doubt totaly, the MG was only part carbon and what £75k with an ol v8 in, that spec list looks more like £200k+ if they ever build it.

MarkoTVR

1,139 posts

235 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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Harry Flashman said:
He'll have to design the engine rather better than he did TVR's Speed Six - absolute shambles. Grenade of a thing.

He designed it very well, as his pedigree would suggest. It's what happened to those designs after that which appears to be the issue.

jellison

12,803 posts

278 months

Thursday 11th May 2006
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That Engine in the Pic is a Peugeuot late 90's F! Engine. BURKS....