RE: Ultima smashes world record - again

RE: Ultima smashes world record - again

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timsta

2,779 posts

245 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Dr S said:
Whow, highly effective speed machine methinks . Any evidence on actual track performance? I wonder if it corners as well as it does the 0-100-0. Given its outright preformance it may be forgiven rather boring looks...


It also holds the Lateral-G record: www.ultimasports.co.uk/records/part4.html

peter pan

1,253 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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I think it was the Atom which ran on `slightly' naughty tyres Strange how the list shown above doesnt include The Caterham which was the record holder before the Ultima had a go at it.

spdpug98

1,551 posts

221 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Why do they have to do this, it just makes me want one even more..............especially now as the missus is pregnant I will have to wait even longer

anyone want to buy a missus with baby on board

BossCerbera

8,188 posts

242 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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cannedheat said:
I remember there was a TVR in a 0-100-0 which had some funny named Yoko's or Toyo's which were pretty much super soft drag tyres or similar...

That was the Tuscan S that did an 8 second 0-100.

dino ferrana

791 posts

251 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Ultima don't like to acknowledge Caterham because they don't want to be bracketed as a kit car. Apparently they wouldn't turn up to the Sunday Times 0-60 challenge because the other cars were a Noble, Caterham and Atom and not Enzo and Carrera GT.

It was the Atom for the Sunday Times 0-60 test and they had fitted racing slicks with grooves hand cut into them. Probably would have still won without cheating but for some reason they decided to make sure!

dani959

3 posts

213 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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I know I'd never buy a VW Veyron... It's overweighted and over-expensive! Besides, it's a VW...

As for the Ultima record, AMAZING!

Please remember:
NO Traction Control
NO ABS
it's all about power, weight and traction!

Al Up North

155 posts

215 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Does the Bugatti Veyron not earn a place in the top ten list?
Or am i missing something??
I heard a pretty impressive comparison between the Veyron and a Maclaren F1. Think it was during JC's test drive. Apparently if you give the F1 a head start to 100mph, and then gun the Bugatti, the Bugatti STILL BEATS IT TO 200mph. Too cool for words.
So anyway,... why not on the list me wonders!
Any clue anybody?
Al

daver

1,209 posts

283 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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The figures are pretty mind boggling, no doubt about that. Just a shame about all the super-marque bashing and notion of brand superiority over other low-volume Brit manufacturers that seems to have to accompany them.

Obviously supercars are supposed to be fast. Speed is only one parameter though. If you were to leave your local Spearmint with the keys to a Carrera GT, Zonda or Murcielago and a young lady whose acquaintance you may have recently made, I'd wager that the respective positions of the cars in the zero-knickersoff table would be somewhat different and, dare I say, not so favourable for the Ultima.

Dr S

4,991 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Al Up North said:
Does the Bugatti Veyron not earn a place in the top ten list?
Or am i missing something??
I heard a pretty impressive comparison between the Veyron and a Maclaren F1. Think it was during JC's test drive. Apparently if you give the F1 a head start to 100mph, and then gun the Bugatti, the Bugatti STILL BEATS IT TO 200mph. Too cool for words.
So anyway,... why not on the list me wonders!
Any clue anybody?
Al


The Volkswagen boys have been highly reluctant to provide test cars to determine and verify actual performance. Not even the leading German mag Sport Auto did get a car to test it on the Ring. The excuses from VW on this were pure b******s. Well, glam over performance, I guess.

Carrera2

8,352 posts

231 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Am I missing something here?

By their maths doesn't the 0-100-0 time total 8.9 secs? Or is the missing .4 sec the reaction time at 100mph?

Mr Whippy

28,879 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Chris71 said:
Wonder how that compares to the Veyron covered in autocar this week....


Ooohhh, is it the 0-100-0 Autocar this week?

Dave

cmoody32

56 posts

221 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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I know that they were going to run the new 720 but I did not know that it would be soo soon.

I am putting my 720 American Speed engine in my Can-Am rolling chassis right now and plan on making a few runs at that record here in the US. I will post the numbers as soon as I get them.

slowly slowly

2,474 posts

223 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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It could be quicker, ditch the fat bloke (i know he`s not fat ) get a jockey in there or better still ME and get a longer first gear then you would`nt need to change even 1 gear, he did it in second gear did`nt he?.

r988

7,495 posts

228 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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daver said:
The figures are pretty mind boggling, no doubt about that. Just a shame about all the super-marque bashing and notion of brand superiority over other low-volume Brit manufacturers that seems to have to accompany them.

Obviously supercars are supposed to be fast. Speed is only one parameter though. If you were to leave your local Spearmint with the keys to a Carrera GT, Zonda or Murcielago and a young lady whose acquaintance you may have recently made, I'd wager that the respective positions of the cars in the zero-knickersoff table would be somewhat different and, dare I say, not so favourable for the Ultima.


You're right of course, but I doubt many people are going to buy an Ultima to impress people by showing how much money they can waste without batting an eyelid, they will buy it because they want to accelerate really, really, fast. This is a proper pistonheads type car, not a pose machine.

Gruffy

7,212 posts

258 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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r988 said:
daver said:
The figures are pretty mind boggling, no doubt about that. Just a shame about all the super-marque bashing and notion of brand superiority over other low-volume Brit manufacturers that seems to have to accompany them.

Obviously supercars are supposed to be fast. Speed is only one parameter though. If you were to leave your local Spearmint with the keys to a Carrera GT, Zonda or Murcielago and a young lady whose acquaintance you may have recently made, I'd wager that the respective positions of the cars in the zero-knickersoff table would be somewhat different and, dare I say, not so favourable for the Ultima.


You're right of course, but I doubt many people are going to buy an Ultima to impress people by showing how much money they can waste without batting an eyelid, they will buy it because they want to accelerate really, really, fast. This is a proper pistonheads type car, not a pose machine.
That's his point! Comparisons are far more valid with Caterhams and Atoms than 'supercars'.

Mr Whippy

28,879 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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r988 said:
they will buy it because they want to accelerate really, really, fast. This is a proper pistonheads type car, not a pose machine.


Caterham R500 would be close to 100mph, for road use by any normal driver anyway.

Dave

G Man

4,053 posts

259 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Mr Whippy said:
r988 said:
they will buy it because they want to accelerate really, really, fast. This is a proper pistonheads type car, not a pose machine.


Caterham R500 would be close to 100mph, for road use by any normal driver anyway.

Dave


I have had both Caterham and Ultima, the Ultima is just way faster

domster

8,431 posts

269 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Mr Whippy said:
r988 said:
they will buy it because they want to accelerate really, really, fast. This is a proper pistonheads type car, not a pose machine.


Caterham R500 would be close to 100mph, for road use by any normal driver anyway.

Dave


That's the speed where G Man is just waking up!

There aren't many cars with 335 section tyres that spin their wheels up to 90mph on a standing start and reel in 500bhp GT2 Porsches, but Gareth's car is one of them.

Caterhams make more sense for practical track day hooning tho'. Cheaper tyres, brakes etc.

boomerkk

619 posts

225 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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Gruffy said:
What's the price tag of that spec Ultima?


This is what I'd want to know too.
I'd wager it'll be between 70-80k (factory-built).

Maybe slightly over 50k if self-built.

benyeats

11,606 posts

229 months

Tuesday 6th June 2006
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dino ferrana said:
It was the Atom for the Sunday Times 0-60 test and they had fitted racing slicks with grooves hand cut into them. Probably would have still won without cheating but for some reason they decided to make sure!


Way I heard it was that they were actually the road legal semi-slick tyres that are a factory option on the Atom hence the factory could not understand what all the fuss was about.

Ben