RE: Ultima smashes world record - again
Discussion
Dr S said:
Whow, highly effective speed machine methinks . Any evidence on actual track performance? I wonder if it corners as well as it does the 0-100-0. Given its outright preformance it may be forgiven rather boring looks...
It also holds the Lateral-G record: www.ultimasports.co.uk/records/part4.html
Ultima don't like to acknowledge Caterham because they don't want to be bracketed as a kit car. Apparently they wouldn't turn up to the Sunday Times 0-60 challenge because the other cars were a Noble, Caterham and Atom and not Enzo and Carrera GT.
It was the Atom for the Sunday Times 0-60 test and they had fitted racing slicks with grooves hand cut into them. Probably would have still won without cheating but for some reason they decided to make sure!
It was the Atom for the Sunday Times 0-60 test and they had fitted racing slicks with grooves hand cut into them. Probably would have still won without cheating but for some reason they decided to make sure!
Does the Bugatti Veyron not earn a place in the top ten list?
Or am i missing something??
I heard a pretty impressive comparison between the Veyron and a Maclaren F1. Think it was during JC's test drive. Apparently if you give the F1 a head start to 100mph, and then gun the Bugatti, the Bugatti STILL BEATS IT TO 200mph. Too cool for words.
So anyway,... why not on the list me wonders!
Any clue anybody?
Al
Or am i missing something??
I heard a pretty impressive comparison between the Veyron and a Maclaren F1. Think it was during JC's test drive. Apparently if you give the F1 a head start to 100mph, and then gun the Bugatti, the Bugatti STILL BEATS IT TO 200mph. Too cool for words.
So anyway,... why not on the list me wonders!
Any clue anybody?
Al
The figures are pretty mind boggling, no doubt about that. Just a shame about all the super-marque bashing and notion of brand superiority over other low-volume Brit manufacturers that seems to have to accompany them.
Obviously supercars are supposed to be fast. Speed is only one parameter though. If you were to leave your local Spearmint with the keys to a Carrera GT, Zonda or Murcielago and a young lady whose acquaintance you may have recently made, I'd wager that the respective positions of the cars in the zero-knickersoff table would be somewhat different and, dare I say, not so favourable for the Ultima.
Obviously supercars are supposed to be fast. Speed is only one parameter though. If you were to leave your local Spearmint with the keys to a Carrera GT, Zonda or Murcielago and a young lady whose acquaintance you may have recently made, I'd wager that the respective positions of the cars in the zero-knickersoff table would be somewhat different and, dare I say, not so favourable for the Ultima.
Al Up North said:
Does the Bugatti Veyron not earn a place in the top ten list?
Or am i missing something??
I heard a pretty impressive comparison between the Veyron and a Maclaren F1. Think it was during JC's test drive. Apparently if you give the F1 a head start to 100mph, and then gun the Bugatti, the Bugatti STILL BEATS IT TO 200mph. Too cool for words.
So anyway,... why not on the list me wonders!
Any clue anybody?
Al
Or am i missing something??
I heard a pretty impressive comparison between the Veyron and a Maclaren F1. Think it was during JC's test drive. Apparently if you give the F1 a head start to 100mph, and then gun the Bugatti, the Bugatti STILL BEATS IT TO 200mph. Too cool for words.
So anyway,... why not on the list me wonders!
Any clue anybody?
Al
The Volkswagen boys have been highly reluctant to provide test cars to determine and verify actual performance. Not even the leading German mag Sport Auto did get a car to test it on the Ring. The excuses from VW on this were pure b******s. Well, glam over performance, I guess.
daver said:
The figures are pretty mind boggling, no doubt about that. Just a shame about all the super-marque bashing and notion of brand superiority over other low-volume Brit manufacturers that seems to have to accompany them.
Obviously supercars are supposed to be fast. Speed is only one parameter though. If you were to leave your local Spearmint with the keys to a Carrera GT, Zonda or Murcielago and a young lady whose acquaintance you may have recently made, I'd wager that the respective positions of the cars in the zero-knickersoff table would be somewhat different and, dare I say, not so favourable for the Ultima.
Obviously supercars are supposed to be fast. Speed is only one parameter though. If you were to leave your local Spearmint with the keys to a Carrera GT, Zonda or Murcielago and a young lady whose acquaintance you may have recently made, I'd wager that the respective positions of the cars in the zero-knickersoff table would be somewhat different and, dare I say, not so favourable for the Ultima.
You're right of course, but I doubt many people are going to buy an Ultima to impress people by showing how much money they can waste without batting an eyelid, they will buy it because they want to accelerate really, really, fast. This is a proper pistonheads type car, not a pose machine.
r988 said:
daver said:
The figures are pretty mind boggling, no doubt about that. Just a shame about all the super-marque bashing and notion of brand superiority over other low-volume Brit manufacturers that seems to have to accompany them.
Obviously supercars are supposed to be fast. Speed is only one parameter though. If you were to leave your local Spearmint with the keys to a Carrera GT, Zonda or Murcielago and a young lady whose acquaintance you may have recently made, I'd wager that the respective positions of the cars in the zero-knickersoff table would be somewhat different and, dare I say, not so favourable for the Ultima.
Obviously supercars are supposed to be fast. Speed is only one parameter though. If you were to leave your local Spearmint with the keys to a Carrera GT, Zonda or Murcielago and a young lady whose acquaintance you may have recently made, I'd wager that the respective positions of the cars in the zero-knickersoff table would be somewhat different and, dare I say, not so favourable for the Ultima.
You're right of course, but I doubt many people are going to buy an Ultima to impress people by showing how much money they can waste without batting an eyelid, they will buy it because they want to accelerate really, really, fast. This is a proper pistonheads type car, not a pose machine.
Mr Whippy said:
r988 said:
they will buy it because they want to accelerate really, really, fast. This is a proper pistonheads type car, not a pose machine.
Caterham R500 would be close to 100mph, for road use by any normal driver anyway.
Dave
I have had both Caterham and Ultima, the Ultima is just way faster
Mr Whippy said:
r988 said:
they will buy it because they want to accelerate really, really, fast. This is a proper pistonheads type car, not a pose machine.
Caterham R500 would be close to 100mph, for road use by any normal driver anyway.
Dave
That's the speed where G Man is just waking up!
There aren't many cars with 335 section tyres that spin their wheels up to 90mph on a standing start and reel in 500bhp GT2 Porsches, but Gareth's car is one of them.
Caterhams make more sense for practical track day hooning tho'. Cheaper tyres, brakes etc.
dino ferrana said:
It was the Atom for the Sunday Times 0-60 test and they had fitted racing slicks with grooves hand cut into them. Probably would have still won without cheating but for some reason they decided to make sure!
Way I heard it was that they were actually the road legal semi-slick tyres that are a factory option on the Atom hence the factory could not understand what all the fuss was about.
Ben
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