RE: Carver One
Discussion
Yes TC i was there all day Friday just keeping an eye on the Carvers fortunately none of them were damaged despite Nigel Benn going way off in to the gravel trap in the Black car and there were no reliability issues either. There must have been 50 + people there from Sky involved. Founder Chris Vandenbrink was there and put on a display of stunt driving in his factory development black car in the huge tarmac area behind the pit garages.
If you care to put on SKY 3 which is free to view on Freeview this afternoon Sunday at 3.00pm there is 5 hours of continuous TV coverage of catch up of all the weeks races ( including the Carver day )
the final takes place today in formula Fords and will be shown tonight on SKY one at 10.00pm
Those interested in the car might like a look at this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FlGybEZfY8
If you care to put on SKY 3 which is free to view on Freeview this afternoon Sunday at 3.00pm there is 5 hours of continuous TV coverage of catch up of all the weeks races ( including the Carver day )
the final takes place today in formula Fords and will be shown tonight on SKY one at 10.00pm
Those interested in the car might like a look at this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FlGybEZfY8
Edited by RTH on Monday 4th December 09:39
Interested to know what those of you that follow these things think about this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FlGybEZfY8
www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4817/gallery/
It is the work of a very large Japanese engineering group working in co-operation with Carver just to demonstrate what they are capable of making. So far as I know there are no plans for production, but it may point the way for a future revision, but who knows ?
What do you think ?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FlGybEZfY8
www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4817/gallery/
It is the work of a very large Japanese engineering group working in co-operation with Carver just to demonstrate what they are capable of making. So far as I know there are no plans for production, but it may point the way for a future revision, but who knows ?
What do you think ?
RTH said:
Interested to know what those of you that follow these things think about this
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FlGybEZfY8
www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4817/gallery/
It is the work of a very large Japanese engineering group working in co-operation with Carver just to demonstrate what they are capable of making. So far as I know there are no plans for production, but it may point the way for a future revision, but who knows ?
What do you think ?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FlGybEZfY8
www.gizmag.co.uk/go/4817/gallery/
It is the work of a very large Japanese engineering group working in co-operation with Carver just to demonstrate what they are capable of making. So far as I know there are no plans for production, but it may point the way for a future revision, but who knows ?
What do you think ?
Looks good, but isn't it just a facelifted Carver? If they mass produced it and shaved £10K of the asking price, it'd look even better.
I must say this carver has me very interested. If we hadn't just bought two new cars i'd definitly be taking a trip to the uk to test drive one. Maybe in the new year i'll go over to have a go, and see what they are like. Seeing as the customer ones are only just going into production now, once they clear the backorders and normal production commences what would do you think the likely order to build completion time be like around the summer time?
Asuming the predicted production rate is consistantly achieved then within about 6 months one would imagine lead time should be quite short , that of course will depend on the rate of sales over that period as well. Why not go to the website, use the phone no. and register for details and keep up with the latest information. www.carver-uk.com
www.carver-worldwide.com/Dealer_FO/Dealer_Detail.asp?S_ID=54&D_ID=19&nc=1
www.carver-worldwide.com/Dealer_FO/Dealer_Detail.asp?S_ID=54&D_ID=19&nc=1
Edited by RTH on Saturday 9th December 08:02
Already done 
I contacted them a while back but unfortunatly i havn't had time to go over to the uk as of yet. But once the new year starts things should have settled down so i would hope to be going over around march time. Fingers crossed everything goes well with the first run of them, really great machine.
I contacted them a while back but unfortunatly i havn't had time to go over to the uk as of yet. But once the new year starts things should have settled down so i would hope to be going over around march time. Fingers crossed everything goes well with the first run of them, really great machine. I love it It seriously appeals to my love of quirky & innovative cars. But £30k!? 
Thats big money for something that at the end of the day, is still powered by a meagre Daihatsu copen motor.
Even if it was £10k less, it would still be pricey. Yes, you could argue that it is unique and that for the money, nothing else compares. But then a Smart car doesn't really compare to much else either, yet still costs substantially less, and as LA said, folks think those are expensive as it is..
I REALLY do like it though, and I REALLY would love to have one. But for that money, absolutely forget it.
P,
It seriously appeals to my love of quirky & innovative cars. But £30k!? Thats big money for something that at the end of the day, is still powered by a meagre Daihatsu copen motor. Even if it was £10k less, it would still be pricey. Yes, you could argue that it is unique and that for the money, nothing else compares. But then a Smart car doesn't really compare to much else either, yet still costs substantially less, and as LA said, folks think those are expensive as it is..
I REALLY do like it though, and I REALLY would love to have one. But for that money, absolutely forget it.
P,
I don't think anyone has attempted to defend the price . It does have a lot of costly kit on it particually all the hydraulics, it is very labour intensive to build , everything is packaged in to a very small space much of it under the cabin floor and they tell us there is not great margin in it, it really is that much to build , as a result it will retain exclusivity , they will never be a common sight, more than 12 years of design work and development have gone in to it with a full staff before any sales..
No Carver Ones the heavily revised production models have yet arrived in the UK . The engine from Daihatsu is effectively a Mk 2 with noticeably more power we are told and that is before the optional management electronic upgrade which boosts power by a further 20 BHP put another way nearly 30 % .First cars should touch down just before the end of the month, expecting something noticably different in most respects.
No Carver Ones the heavily revised production models have yet arrived in the UK . The engine from Daihatsu is effectively a Mk 2 with noticeably more power we are told and that is before the optional management electronic upgrade which boosts power by a further 20 BHP put another way nearly 30 % .First cars should touch down just before the end of the month, expecting something noticably different in most respects.
Have to admit that Japanese development version looks a lot more professional and polished...that monotracer thing also looks much sleeker and professionally designed than the carver.
I've taken the cheap four wheeled route and acquired a ridulous value Tvr Griff for a fraction of the asking on one of these. I may still want to try one out, but maybe a little while after the initial customers have ironed out any problems
I've taken the cheap four wheeled route and acquired a ridulous value Tvr Griff for a fraction of the asking on one of these. I may still want to try one out, but maybe a little while after the initial customers have ironed out any problems
RTH said:
I don't think anyone has attempted to defend the price . It does have a lot of costly kit on it particually all the hydraulics, it is very labour intensive to build , everything is packaged in to a very small space much of it under the cabin floor and they tell us there is not great margin in it, it really is that much to build , as a result it will retain exclusivity , they will never be a common sight, more than 12 years of design work and development have gone in to it with a full staff before any sales..
No Carver Ones the heavily revised production models have yet arrived in the UK . The engine from Daihatsu is effectively a Mk 2 with noticeably more power we are told and that is before the optional management electronic upgrade which boosts power by a further 20 BHP put another way nearly 30 % .First cars should touch down just before the end of the month, expecting something noticably different in most respects.
No Carver Ones the heavily revised production models have yet arrived in the UK . The engine from Daihatsu is effectively a Mk 2 with noticeably more power we are told and that is before the optional management electronic upgrade which boosts power by a further 20 BHP put another way nearly 30 % .First cars should touch down just before the end of the month, expecting something noticably different in most respects.
If you look at what it's actually made out of, materials wise, for the price they're asking you'd have to assume that the extra cost is solely down to the swanky tilting likage between the front cockpit and the rear engine compartment - so realistically, they're saying that linkeage alone costs £20K.
...there is an interesting development going on in the bike world at the moment
Has it not struck anyone else that if you look at the Piaggio MP3 and Gilera Fuoco 500IE it should not take a genius at either of these companies to stretch their new 3 wheeled mopeds into fully enclosed commuting mobiles (a la BMW...but more so)...to be retailed at 10% the price of a carver, and with cheaper insurance and fuel economy...and guaranteed exclusion from congestion charging and parking issues (rather than the inconclusive claims of the carver)...not inconceivable to predict that we may be witnessing the dawn of a new commuter vehicle space in the personal transport arena to postpone the take up of electric vehicles.
Has it not struck anyone else that if you look at the Piaggio MP3 and Gilera Fuoco 500IE it should not take a genius at either of these companies to stretch their new 3 wheeled mopeds into fully enclosed commuting mobiles (a la BMW...but more so)...to be retailed at 10% the price of a carver, and with cheaper insurance and fuel economy...and guaranteed exclusion from congestion charging and parking issues (rather than the inconclusive claims of the carver)...not inconceivable to predict that we may be witnessing the dawn of a new commuter vehicle space in the personal transport arena to postpone the take up of electric vehicles.
I'm sure you are right, with the pressure on parking space , congestion charges ballooning, - and zones spreading out , financial and other restrictions on emissions, the rising cost of all fuels. Someone is bound to come out with a one person enclosed vehicle that takes you to work in the dry with better physical protection than a bike with minimal cost and taking up a tiny amount of space. No one has yet put all that together , but someone will.
kentviking said:
...there is an interesting development going on in the bike world at the moment
Has it not struck anyone else that if you look at the Piaggio MP3 and Gilera Fuoco 500IE it should not take a genius at either of these companies to stretch their new 3 wheeled mopeds into fully enclosed commuting mobiles (a la BMW...but more so)...to be retailed at 10% the price of a carver, and with cheaper insurance and fuel economy...and guaranteed exclusion from congestion charging and parking issues (rather than the inconclusive claims of the carver)...not inconceivable to predict that we may be witnessing the dawn of a new commuter vehicle space in the personal transport arena to postpone the take up of electric vehicles.
Has it not struck anyone else that if you look at the Piaggio MP3 and Gilera Fuoco 500IE it should not take a genius at either of these companies to stretch their new 3 wheeled mopeds into fully enclosed commuting mobiles (a la BMW...but more so)...to be retailed at 10% the price of a carver, and with cheaper insurance and fuel economy...and guaranteed exclusion from congestion charging and parking issues (rather than the inconclusive claims of the carver)...not inconceivable to predict that we may be witnessing the dawn of a new commuter vehicle space in the personal transport arena to postpone the take up of electric vehicles.
Yes, and I noticed in the Metro article (today?) about those that there's a button to lock the wheels when at the lights and thus avoiding the need to put your feet down when at rest.........those bikes are very nearly there......
....hadn't considered that option myself, but good thinking that man. If Piaggio can produce an effective tilt mechanism for a machine costing £4K (or something like that?) than do we think Carver are overcharging somewhat? Actually, thinking about it, the rider tilts the bike, whereas hydraulics tilt in in the Carver - still, still seems a large amount to pay for a hydraulic tilt mechanism.
The production line was closed down due to some dispute back in May sometime, about the time mine was due. Aparently, they have made 50 and mine should be in the next 25. As yet production hasn't restarted as best as I can tell. I bought a Morgan Aero 8 now as it has been almost a year since the original delivery date.
I expect it will still be several months before mine comes through.
I expect it will still be several months before mine comes through.
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