Car & Car Conversions

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littlegearl

3,139 posts

258 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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interloper said:
PS a like Retro but will it srvive if something like CCC cant ?


i hope so!!! although i understood its heritage i never really got into CCC though Retro Cars could almost be aimed entirely for me!!!

another great mag (imo) to go to the wall was 'Le Mans Series & Sportscar Racer' which was excellent for sportscar fans though only lasted a year before the plug was pulled without warning...

bluesatin

3,114 posts

273 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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I have always ready this as it explained the reason behind the power. The October was supposed to have Stig's (from this forum) Ultima tested!

CB-Dave

1,002 posts

261 months

Tuesday 2nd September 2003
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A while back I was talking to Dan White (ex editor of redline) about why they felt the need to put porno-tat in their supposed car mags, and why couldn't they be more like CCC and feature real cars and proper tuning.

His reply said something like "I can't see CCC being around much longer anyway as they're too specialist. People don't want articles about cam timing and so on, they want tits and arse, with a few cars put around the place"

GavinPearson

5,715 posts

252 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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What a shame. I learnt a lot from CCC, and in the 80s they had some great articles - Ayrton Senna goes Rallying & Andy Burton's Alfa Ferrari being two good examples.

But other good mags have gone out of business too - my fave was Sports Car which became Performance tuning and Sports Car, very competently written and I still have a lot of them.

Hopefully somebody with integrity will start a new magazine that takes over the mantle of CCC.

Izza

571 posts

277 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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so wtf am i supposed to do down here in NZ? That was the only decent car mag I could get, and then I had spent months trying to find a shop that stocked it.



peetbee

1,036 posts

256 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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Does this mean that there will be a spare 'Action Day' slot at Castle Combe next year?

If so what are the chances of making it a Piston Heads Action Day!

Shame to see the magazine go, it's one of the few that I've bought over the years.

DustyC

12,820 posts

255 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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iguana said:

Performance Car & Fastlane- which was one of my faves.


I thought EVO was performance car. They have hinted it a lot of times.

900T-R

20,404 posts

258 months

Wednesday 3rd September 2003
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According to the Evo folks themselves as per what they wrote in their 50th issue, Performance Car got swallowed up by Car and the former PC staff was disposed of at the same time, so they found a backer in the form of Harry Metcalfe and started their own mag...

As for content, ECOTY = PCOTY which pretty much sums the rest up, too...

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Sad news and a waste of a good mag

At least there should be a decent cover story in the final issue

andy_b

727 posts

252 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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very sad news about CCC. I'm a subsriber and agree its gone a little down hill, but still looked forward to it coming through the door.

900T is correct. Car did carry "Performance Car" on there cover for a short while, before it quietly dissapeared.

gnomesmith

2,458 posts

277 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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iguana said:
Unfortunatly mate Laxxy power is the biggest selling mag by a very very long way, somat like 250,000 circulation on the ABC figures, whereas EVO is approx 64,000.


But 250,000 is still a long way short of the ABC cerified figure of 361,859 for Motoring and Leisure (the CSMA Magazine). I think I made that point in my very first posting, how could you forget?

I used to subscribe to CCC in 1967 and purchased copies before that. I've dipped in over the years but it appears to have become too inward looking and it has lost its sense of fun. I well remember taking on their Gold coloured Mini Sprint Traveller in the traffic lights Grand Prix and demonstrating that 1275ccs of tuned A Series motor was insufficient to humiliate a tuned 2.2 litre MGB. I am of course far too mature to indulge in such things these days!

I'll miss you CCC but at least I can tell my wife that I have listened to her and intend to buy fewer motor magazines in future. Worth a few Brownie points?

jimbro1000

1,619 posts

285 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Stig said:
Sad news and a waste of a good mag

At least there should be a decent cover story in the final issue


Have they said for sure if they are going to run *that* article or not?

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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jimbro1000 said:

Stig said:
Sad news and a waste of a good mag

At least there should be a decent cover story in the final issue



Have they said for sure if they are going to run *that* article or not?


Last thing I heard they were, but with the closure - who knows?

MattMair

24 posts

258 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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At least two PHer's made it into the final issue, I'm one of the guy's who went to Blyton for the Rallycross car !

Stig yes your car is included and you got front cover too.

>> Edited by MattMair on Monday 8th September 16:48

Oi_Oi_Savaloy

2,313 posts

261 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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That's three then; I'm going to be in it too.

Stig

11,818 posts

285 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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MattMair said:
At least two PHer's made it into the final issue, I'm one of the guy's who went to Blyton for the Rallycross car !

Stig yes your car is included and you got front cover too.

>> Edited by MattMair on Monday 8th September 16:48


Mint - how did you find out? Direct from them I guess??

MattMair

24 posts

258 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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I'm one of the unlucky subscribers and got my copy this morning..Oi Oi are you the 'Sid' who won ?

Oi_Oi_Savaloy

2,313 posts

261 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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I am! First race is at Blyton on 21/22nd Sept! And I'm already shitting myself!

Still can't believe I won!

Oi_Oi_Savaloy

2,313 posts

261 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Matt - have you seen the article in CCC? Is it good?

MattMair

24 posts

258 months

Monday 8th September 2003
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Was hoping to go to Blyton, make that definitely now !!See you there.

Yea not bad, single page and three photo's (not sure if the action one's are us tho !)

Matt.

>> Edited by MattMair on Monday 8th September 17:12