F1 sounds crap

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Biker 1

7,758 posts

120 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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I read a very interesting interview with Luca Cordero di Montezemolo in Top Gear Magazine. When quizzed on the current state of affairs in F1, he replied that he was not in favour of 4 cylinder engines. He thought having to conserve fuel & thus not to be able to run flat out all the time was ridiculous & that he wanted to bring back pit stop re-fuelling. He suggested that there should be a separate 'Hybrid' formula/class outside of F1. His really telling remarks were saying that F1 is currently like Italy without pasta.........

KareemK

1,110 posts

120 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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Biker 1 said:
I read a very interesting interview with Luca Cordero di Montezemolo in Top Gear Magazine. When quizzed on the current state of affairs in F1, he replied that he was not in favour of 4 cylinder engines.
confused

The current engines are V6 Turbos no?

mistakenplane

426 posts

121 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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Biker 1 said:
I read a very interesting interview with Luca Cordero di Montezemolo in Top Gear Magazine. When quizzed on the current state of affairs in F1, he replied that he was not in favour of 4 cylinder engines. He thought having to conserve fuel & thus not to be able to run flat out all the time was ridiculous & that he wanted to bring back pit stop re-fuelling. He suggested that there should be a separate 'Hybrid' formula/class outside of F1. His really telling remarks were saying that F1 is currently like Italy without pasta.........
Luca, like Bernie, has a vested interest in knocking F1. Esp as Mercedes have an advantage. I would take his comments with a pinch of salt...

zac510

5,546 posts

207 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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mistakenplane said:
Luca, like Bernie, has a vested interest in knocking F1. Esp as Mercedes have an advantage. I would take his comments with a pinch of salt...
Why would biker1 take it with salt? Then it wouldn't support his "F1 sucks" opinion!

Biker 1

7,758 posts

120 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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Good article, even for Top Gear magazine.
I totally agree there are probably multiple vested interests from Ferrari HQ, Mr Ecclestone et-al, & also that I have probably mis-quoted some of the article (read it last night & tried to remember salient bits for PH this morning - sorry....) But the comments by Montezemolo concerning the soul of F1 struck a chord with me & doubtless many others.

JonRB

74,789 posts

273 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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KareemK said:
Biker 1 said:
I read a very interesting interview with Luca Cordero di Montezemolo in Top Gear Magazine. When quizzed on the current state of affairs in F1, he replied that he was not in favour of 4 cylinder engines.
confused

The current engines are V6 Turbos no?
Yes, they are. But originally they were going to be 4-cyl turbos and the proposed spec was changed to V6 turbos under the weight of negative reaction (both from teams such as Ferrari and also fans)

dr_gn

16,173 posts

185 months

Friday 23rd May 2014
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JonRB said:
KareemK said:
Biker 1 said:
I read a very interesting interview with Luca Cordero di Montezemolo in Top Gear Magazine. When quizzed on the current state of affairs in F1, he replied that he was not in favour of 4 cylinder engines.
confused

The current engines are V6 Turbos no?
Yes, they are. But originally they were going to be 4-cyl turbos and the proposed spec was changed to V6 turbos under the weight of negative reaction (both from teams such as Ferrari and also fans)
That was a close shave, if I4 turbo engines had been specified F1 would have been in danger of losing a shed load of specatcle...oh hang on.

geeeman

1,310 posts

256 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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longshot

3,286 posts

199 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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24lemons

2,662 posts

186 months

dr_gn

16,173 posts

185 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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longshot

3,286 posts

199 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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dr_gn said:
hehe

Tunku

7,703 posts

229 months

Saturday 24th May 2014
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I've actually quite liked the sound when hearing the cars going around a built up area, vis-a-vis Monaco. I always thought they were meant to be turbo straight fours, but have only recently discovered they are actually V6 turbos.

caduceus

6,071 posts

267 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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24lemons said:
Thank you.

This is it in a nutshell for me. Current F1 is dead in the water AFAIC.

dr_gn

16,173 posts

185 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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caduceus said:
24lemons said:
Thank you.

This is it in a nutshell for me. Current F1 is dead in the water AFAIC.
You underestimate the apparent willingness of the majority of people to accept huge compromises (not just F1, but in general).

I'm intrigued to see how many peope turn up to a live event next year, and how many, like me, have finally given up on F1 in terms of following it closely and attending events.

In the past I'd never miss a race. Now I'm glad when only the highlights are shown, that's really all it deserves these days.

woof

8,456 posts

278 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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Tunku said:
I've actually quite liked the sound when hearing the cars going around a built up area, vis-a-vis Monaco. I always thought they were meant to be turbo straight fours, but have only recently discovered they are actually V6 turbos.
But for TV they've boosted up all the onboard and trackside audio feeds.
They are extra microphones all over the tracks now. Before you wouldn't even notice them - now they're all over the place.

It's not a bad sound but it's just too quiet. I'm not in Monaco this year but I'll be interested to hear from people that have been there what it really sounds like vs GP2 or even the Supercup cars.


JonRB

74,789 posts

273 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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I don't think anyone disagrees that the cars are rather quiet. And, for sure, it is a very different sound to what we have been used to. But I still say that there is an aural richness that has been missing in the past. Yes, the 2014 cars don't get the hairs on my neck standing up the way the old V12s and V10s did, but I would take them over the shrill one-dimensionality of the V8s any day.

Anyway, the fact of the matter is that this is what we have now (for this season at least). So plus ca change and all that.

caduceus

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267 months

dr_gn

16,173 posts

185 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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PW said:
dr_gn said:
and how many, like me, have finally given up on F1 in terms of following it closely
Blatantly a lie, considering how you seem to be able to comment in such great depth and, unfortunately, length on it.
dr_gn said:
...following it closely
Do you read at all?

don logan

3,523 posts

223 months

Sunday 25th May 2014
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I heard them today in the "flesh" at Monaco and was in complete shock, I really liked the mechanical sound of the engines, they don't scream or howl but they sound angry!

Interestingly I did get to lap 22 with putting my earplugs in where as before they would have been straight in, tha cars were passing me about 20ft away!

Imagine an angry 7 or 9 cylinder engine with some turbo whistle, that's how they spund to me!

I reckon on a big open circuit they will be very quiet