Is Vettel overrated?
Poll: Is Vettel overrated?
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Discussion
BlackpoolRock said:
MGJohn said:
He both merits and earns huge respect .... OUTSIDE lil ol' UK.
I would argue that. He was boo'd at almost every race he was on the podium last year bar Germany. Is that a fact? So a few boos make a summer. Yeah right. Did nobody cheer at those same "almost every race" events ? You gotta accent the negativity. The various forms of media usually focus on that. Even the highly rated MB expressed his concern whilst doing the podium interviews. Quite rightly too.
BOOOOOOOOO !!
Yes, sour grapes. Meantime, whilst on the subject of fruit, have a banana. For consumption purposes only.... not for throwing at "favourite" drivers.
MGJohn said:
Ahah .. could be Hamilton is harder on his car than his team mate ... Hence more DNFs...
MGJohn, you seem to think yourself much more unbiased than a lot of people here, and I think you have some good points sometimes. But now you seem to just be going into finding stuff to "prove" Hamtilon would be worse. Which is basically the same as you're accusing everyone of doing to Vettel (but reversed for him, since the car is doing it instead). Hence more DNFs... You might as well say Vettel is worse on altenators since there's been quite a few that have broken on his car.
NRS said:
MGJohn said:
Ahah .. could be Hamilton is harder on his car than his team mate ... Hence more DNFs...
MGJohn, you seem to think yourself much more unbiased than a lot of people here, and I think you have some good points sometimes. But now you seem to just be going into finding stuff to "prove" Hamtilon would be worse. Which is basically the same as you're accusing everyone of doing to Vettel (but reversed for him, since the car is doing it instead). Hence more DNFs... You might as well say Vettel is worse on altenators since there's been quite a few that have broken on his car.
Even if Vettel is guilty of having the "best" car for seasons 2010-13 inclusive, the jury is still out on that for me. Even so, he could still be the best out there in spite of allegedly having the best car. My bit of string could be just as "how long" is yours.
My mind is open to all possibilities which include the one that I am wrong on every count. So, my opinions are just as valid until the length of the piece of string is a known quantity...
There again, some things are immeasurable. Psssst ... wanna buy a "Get Maldonado" bumper sticker ? Currently on special offer ... reduced to twenty quid post paid to any UK mainland address.
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ash73 said:
Anything else is a subjective judgement of who is your "favourite", which is fine, and Mansell is at the top of that list for me, too.
Mansell my most favourite in recent decades but, not my all time favourite. He was a close, very close second to my all time favourite: J. Clark. Two hugely different driving styles but both always enjoyable to watch at their work even on a less successful day.Exige77 said:
Maybe the Mods should change the thread title to The MGJohn thread.
I don't think that's so fair - he just stands out because he argues Vettel is better than Hamilton. Which could be right or wrong, just most people on here disagree/ those who agree have stopped posting. I guess the whole part of being a forum to discuss things (well, to try and convince them that I'm the only one who's right, ).
MGJohn said:
ash73 said:
Anything else is a subjective judgement of who is your "favourite", which is fine, and Mansell is at the top of that list for me, too.
Mansell my most favourite in recent decades but, not my all time favourite. He was a close, very close second to my all time favourite: J. Clark. Two hugely different driving styles but both always enjoyable to watch at their work even on a less successful day.Or rather IMO, not someone who is none of those things, like Vettel.
It didn't stop him being rated or rated less highly than those with more WDC's like Piquet.
Edited by mattikake on Saturday 12th April 20:03
Do you know what I find more boring than watching f1 bar the Bahrain gp which was good is threads like this which solves nothing and just goes round in circles with a few posters arguing there point.
Everyone has different opinions on what is the measure of greatness, who is overrated, who is underrated, what driver is quickest etc etc etc. Nobody will change someone else opinion on subjects like this so why f
king bother to argue about it.
All I will say is that, someone that has broken a lot of records in his relatively short time in f1 has 4 wdc to his name in 4 years yes 2 where easy titles but the other 2 going down to the last race. Won the only race for torro rosso got red bulls first race win and wdc title is certainly not overrated he's underrated by a lot of so called f1 experts he has another 10 year in f1 unless he gets bored and does something else it is a good chance he can beat Schumacher's record of drivers titles.
Everyone has different opinions on what is the measure of greatness, who is overrated, who is underrated, what driver is quickest etc etc etc. Nobody will change someone else opinion on subjects like this so why f
king bother to argue about it.All I will say is that, someone that has broken a lot of records in his relatively short time in f1 has 4 wdc to his name in 4 years yes 2 where easy titles but the other 2 going down to the last race. Won the only race for torro rosso got red bulls first race win and wdc title is certainly not overrated he's underrated by a lot of so called f1 experts he has another 10 year in f1 unless he gets bored and does something else it is a good chance he can beat Schumacher's record of drivers titles.
MG CHRIS said:
Do you know what I find more boring than watching f1 bar the Bahrain gp which was good is threads like this which solves nothing and just goes round in circles with a few posters arguing there point.
Then we're in good company even Lewis Hamilton goes round and round in circles at least fifty plus times usually every other weekend in the season.... 
Lighten up Chaps. Life's too short. It really is ...
More Boring threads ... include yourself out then. NEVER found F1 boring.
LDN said:
Vettel is rated about right I reckon; for the most part... Hamilton is the faster driver... this dream of them both in the same car is actually a reality... they've been in the same car (ish) in F3 and Lewis dominated him... then again, Di Resta also beat Vettel the year after...
But not with both having an equivalent level of experience in the feeder series. Lewis had more years post Karting racing.I think in Vettel's first season of F3 Euro series (after only 2 seasons of Formula BMW) he got more podiums than Lewis managed in his first season of F3 Euro series.
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