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Derek Smith

45,613 posts

248 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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SlipStream77 said:
Kimi missed first practice then had a problem with his downshift in qualifying. He probably would have made Q3 too if Massa hadn't held him up.
I saw that although with the spray and everything it was a little confusing. I wondered if there would have been a penalty.

llewop

3,588 posts

211 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Derek Smith said:
SlipStream77 said:
Kimi missed first practice then had a problem with his downshift in qualifying. He probably would have made Q3 too if Massa hadn't held him up.
I saw that although with the spray and everything it was a little confusing. I wondered if there would have been a penalty.
I thought both of them and others ahead were all on out laps and trying to hang back to get space. Kimi passed Massa before the last corner so wasn't held up on his timed lap - other than, perhaps, by the other cars Massa was trying to back away from.

Derek Smith

45,613 posts

248 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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llewop said:
Derek Smith said:
SlipStream77 said:
Kimi missed first practice then had a problem with his downshift in qualifying. He probably would have made Q3 too if Massa hadn't held him up.
I saw that although with the spray and everything it was a little confusing. I wondered if there would have been a penalty.
I thought both of them and others ahead were all on out laps and trying to hang back to get space. Kimi passed Massa before the last corner so wasn't held up on his timed lap - other than, perhaps, by the other cars Massa was trying to back away from.
I think that holding up includes the approach to the final lap. My interpretation of what I saw was that Massa held up Raik, and he had to make a choice between dropping right back and losing temperature, or the overtake.

FourWheelDrift

88,494 posts

284 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Neither Massa or Raikonnen were on a qualifying lap, they were both on out laps so Massa would not be holding him up.

Massa was dropping back behind 2 other cars to give himself some space, Raikonnen should have done the same with Massa but overtook him and ended up behind the two other cars as he started his own lap. Raikonnen passed Massa before the last corner, so his speed onto the straight to start his lap was not compromised.

slipstream 1985

12,211 posts

179 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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2 upshifts at 1.25 on lewis lap. ften they quote the pole ap as amazing but that really was impressive, some inor oppo lock corrections but very smooth and patient to get on the power. you could see he knew to wait before mashing the throttle despte it being tempting. The old lewis never left but lewis is back.

DHB07

80 posts

121 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Scuffers said:
More than a couple, i see 4 slipups, nothing tragic, but probably another 4-5 tenths in there...
Agreed, without those small corrections there probably was another 4 or 5 tenths. But I reckon in those conditions and with the cars driving as they do now, those corrections are totally necessary to eek out that sort of lap time in the first place.

I doubt he was kicking himself about those twitches. In previous years, perhaps, but I think the drivers expect this sort of action on a pole lap in the wet in 2014. It's what's required to find the limit and bring the lap time down in the first place and hence the drivers are loving it.

Xtriple129

1,150 posts

157 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Mr_Thyroid said:
Quali - you missed it
Race - 1430 tomorrow.
Thank you. I shall try and catch it.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Saturday 19th April 2014
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Xtriple129 said:
Mr_Thyroid said:
Quali - you missed it
Race - 1430 tomorrow.
Thank you. I shall try and catch it.
Qualifying is currently available of Freeview Channel 301 ~ BBC's red button ~ until after 1 am.

Q3 just about to start there.

MGJohn

10,203 posts

183 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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ash73 said:
Derek Smith said:
NR needs to keep it restrained into the first corner.
Yep, I'm slightly disappointed with Nico today for allowing Lewis' pace to get to him, he needs to engage his tactical brain and realise it doesn't matter; he just needs to keep bagging 2nd places while Lewis is in this form. If the tyres come his way tomorrow ok fine go for it, otherwise just relax... it's a long season.
Taking things at face value that's understandable.

Although it was wet the conditions were still changing frequently so not a level playing field to use as a reliable yardstick. On at least two occasions so far this season during wet Qualifying conditions, a false impression has been created. On one Q3 session Vettel looked set to better Hamilton's time near the end when yellow flags forced him to abort. Until then, no drivers had been able to improve on their earlier 'banker' times. As it happened, Vettel still managed to improve on his earlier time with the previous attempt and that still secured second grid slot.

Even so you could be right but, I shall reserve judgement until more information becomes available as the season progresses. I'm not yet convinced that Hamilton's early dominance is a done deal for the rest of the season.

All very interesting though.

slipstream 1985

12,211 posts

179 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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anybody up?

Crafty_

13,279 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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yep

slipstream 1985

12,211 posts

179 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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just made a massive cooked breakfast. hopefully it wont send me to sleep!

result for me

lewis
rosberg
hulkenberg
alonso
massa

seeing as the top 2 are so likely iv predicted to 5th

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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I think Bruno is making a good fist of presenting while Johnny is away GT racing.

Crafty_

13,279 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Ant you mean ?

wtf is going on with red bull this year? intentionally breaking rules and trying to scupper other teams recruitment ?

PompeyM3

1,847 posts

205 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Fishtigua said:
I think Bruno is making a good fist of presenting while Johnny is away GT racing.
Agree, always liked Bruno. Would to nice to see him back in a F1 race seat again.

Merc for the win today, with RB, Ferrari, McLaren and Williams fight for that 3rd spot. Let's hope for a repeat of the type of racing seen at the last one.

Crafty_

13,279 posts

200 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Nope.

Stu R

21,410 posts

215 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Gaz. said:
Morning. I couldn't face getting out of bed at 6.30- has anything interesting happened?
Nothing whatsoever. Ted had the cameraman point at some rain dripping from a roof - that was a highlight.

DHB07

80 posts

121 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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I've made some decent predictions this year. Tempted therefore to bet on this...

HAM
ROS
RIC
ALO
VET

Edited by DHB07 on Sunday 20th April 07:45

Inertiatic

1,040 posts

190 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Niki Lauda

Rob Smedley

Always make me laugh :-)

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

195 months

Sunday 20th April 2014
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Smedders and his 'Prat Perch'. laugh