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S0 What said:
SpeedMattersNot said:
Please tell me someone else saw Maldonado just then. Speechless.
I wanted to laugh but it has been said that sort of thing would happen with so much to do on the steering wheel, ok i did laugh, really loud, totaly forgot to stop turning The RB rear wing looks a bit "flexable" ?
Edited by S0 What on Friday 18th April 03:19
Crafty_ said:
Scuffers said:
Ha ha!
What a cock
What a cock
Meanwhile Paul Di Resta is sat at home waiting to drive some tintop around germany.
What a joke.
If you're incredibly talented - an Alonso, for example - you can criticise the team all you like, because of the talent you bring and the sponsors you'll attract. No-one can drive the car faster than you, so they accept your attitude.
And if you're crap but have bulging sacks of cash - Maldonado springs to mind, for some reason that I can't imagine - the team will again put up with all sorts as they have little choice.
But if you're PDR, an excellent-but-not-top-5 driver, you don't bring much cash and there are several who are at least as fast as you. Add to this your sullen demeanour, your tendency to blame the team for any failure whilst always claiming that any glimmer of success was your doing, plus being regularly beaten by your teammates, and there's a lot of reasons to look elsewhere for next year's driver.
Sorry, but the only reason Paul Di Resta's not still in F1 is Paul Di Resta.
longblackcoat said:
Crafty_ said:
Scuffers said:
Ha ha!
What a cock
What a cock
Meanwhile Paul Di Resta is sat at home waiting to drive some tintop around germany.
What a joke.
If you're incredibly talented - an Alonso, for example - you can criticise the team all you like, because of the talent you bring and the sponsors you'll attract. No-one can drive the car faster than you, so they accept your attitude.
And if you're crap but have bulging sacks of cash - Maldonado springs to mind, for some reason that I can't imagine - the team will again put up with all sorts as they have little choice.
But if you're PDR, an excellent-but-not-top-5 driver, you don't bring much cash and there are several who are at least as fast as you. Add to this your sullen demeanour, your tendency to blame the team for any failure whilst always claiming that any glimmer of success was your doing, plus being regularly beaten by your teammates, and there's a lot of reasons to look elsewhere for next year's driver.
Sorry, but the only reason Paul Di Resta's not still in F1 is Paul Di Resta.
The reason he is not in F1 is plainly and simply that he doesn't bring enough cash. As for being beaten by his team mate, his lesser scoring team mate from last season is still in F1 !
Corpulent Tosser said:
My turn to not agree.
The reason he is not in F1 is plainly and simply that he doesn't bring enough cash. As for being beaten by his team mate, his lesser scoring team mate from last season is still in F1 !
We'll both agree he doesn't bring enough cash.The reason he is not in F1 is plainly and simply that he doesn't bring enough cash. As for being beaten by his team mate, his lesser scoring team mate from last season is still in F1 !
But Hulkenberg is in the same boat financially, and weighs 10kg too much - how come he's still around? Basically, PDR could perhaps have compensated for his lack of cash by being brilliant to work with, bringing good results, and operating faultlessly with the media. He didn't do any of that.
If you had the choice of drivers out there - including the young guys like Bottas, Magnussen et al - would you really have hired PDR for 2014? I know I wouldn't.
longblackcoat said:
Can't agree.
If you're incredibly talented - an Alonso, for example - you can criticise the team all you like, because of the talent you bring and the sponsors you'll attract. No-one can drive the car faster than you, so they accept your attitude.
And if you're crap but have bulging sacks of cash - Maldonado springs to mind, for some reason that I can't imagine - the team will again put up with all sorts as they have little choice.
But if you're PDR, an excellent-but-not-top-5 driver, you don't bring much cash and there are several who are at least as fast as you. Add to this your sullen demeanour, your tendency to blame the team for any failure whilst always claiming that any glimmer of success was your doing, plus being regularly beaten by your teammates, and there's a lot of reasons to look elsewhere for next year's driver.
Sorry, but the only reason Paul Di Resta's not still in F1 is Paul Di Resta.
Spot on.If you're incredibly talented - an Alonso, for example - you can criticise the team all you like, because of the talent you bring and the sponsors you'll attract. No-one can drive the car faster than you, so they accept your attitude.
And if you're crap but have bulging sacks of cash - Maldonado springs to mind, for some reason that I can't imagine - the team will again put up with all sorts as they have little choice.
But if you're PDR, an excellent-but-not-top-5 driver, you don't bring much cash and there are several who are at least as fast as you. Add to this your sullen demeanour, your tendency to blame the team for any failure whilst always claiming that any glimmer of success was your doing, plus being regularly beaten by your teammates, and there's a lot of reasons to look elsewhere for next year's driver.
Sorry, but the only reason Paul Di Resta's not still in F1 is Paul Di Resta.
longblackcoat said:
Can't agree.
If you're incredibly talented - an Alonso, for example - you can criticise the team all you like, because of the talent you bring and the sponsors you'll attract. No-one can drive the car faster than you, so they accept your attitude.
And if you're crap but have bulging sacks of cash - Maldonado springs to mind, for some reason that I can't imagine - the team will again put up with all sorts as they have little choice.
But if you're PDR, an excellent-but-not-top-5 driver, you don't bring much cash and there are several who are at least as fast as you. Add to this your sullen demeanour, your tendency to blame the team for any failure whilst always claiming that any glimmer of success was your doing, plus being regularly beaten by your teammates, and there's a lot of reasons to look elsewhere for next year's driver.
Sorry, but the only reason Paul Di Resta's not still in F1 is Paul Di Resta.
andIf you're incredibly talented - an Alonso, for example - you can criticise the team all you like, because of the talent you bring and the sponsors you'll attract. No-one can drive the car faster than you, so they accept your attitude.
And if you're crap but have bulging sacks of cash - Maldonado springs to mind, for some reason that I can't imagine - the team will again put up with all sorts as they have little choice.
But if you're PDR, an excellent-but-not-top-5 driver, you don't bring much cash and there are several who are at least as fast as you. Add to this your sullen demeanour, your tendency to blame the team for any failure whilst always claiming that any glimmer of success was your doing, plus being regularly beaten by your teammates, and there's a lot of reasons to look elsewhere for next year's driver.
Sorry, but the only reason Paul Di Resta's not still in F1 is Paul Di Resta.
longblackcoat said:
We'll both agree he doesn't bring enough cash.
But Hulkenberg is in the same boat financially, and weighs 10kg too much - how come he's still around? Basically, PDR could perhaps have compensated for his lack of cash by being brilliant to work with, bringing good results, and operating faultlessly with the media. He didn't do any of that.
If you had the choice of drivers out there - including the young guys like Bottas, Magnussen et al - would you really have hired PDR for 2014? I know I wouldn't.
Couldn't agree any more!But Hulkenberg is in the same boat financially, and weighs 10kg too much - how come he's still around? Basically, PDR could perhaps have compensated for his lack of cash by being brilliant to work with, bringing good results, and operating faultlessly with the media. He didn't do any of that.
If you had the choice of drivers out there - including the young guys like Bottas, Magnussen et al - would you really have hired PDR for 2014? I know I wouldn't.
Meantime, back to the actual race. How about ideas of what we observers have learned or not from Practice 1 and 2 ? Any "dark horse" spotted to upset this two horse race ? ...
I'm off to check the odds ~ no mention of the actual prices and selections involved ~ don't want to bore some folks ... ... I feel a good bet coming on this weekend.
Think I'll give these PH F1 threads a miss for a while until I see some changes for the .. Fed up and Bored with their degeneration to "My favourite driver is better that your'n and is more deserving" and he drives the wheels off his dog of a car. Where's the sound gorn plus the GET MALDONADO threads. THOSE I find truly boring !!
I'm off to check the odds ~ no mention of the actual prices and selections involved ~ don't want to bore some folks ... ... I feel a good bet coming on this weekend.
Think I'll give these PH F1 threads a miss for a while until I see some changes for the .. Fed up and Bored with their degeneration to "My favourite driver is better that your'n and is more deserving" and he drives the wheels off his dog of a car. Where's the sound gorn plus the GET MALDONADO threads. THOSE I find truly boring !!
MGJohn said:
Meantime, back to the actual race. How about ideas of what we observers have learned or not from Practice 1 and 2 ? Any "dark horse" spotted to upset this two horse race ? ...
not sure what to read from FP1/2...Ferrari seem to have found something (I assume in the engine electronics department)
Same for red-bull, but not so much
Merc still look good, but I wonder is there's a lot more to come after Lewis problems but still top of the sheets?
FI looking like a step forward too
McLaren seem to be going backwards?
Williams seem to be about the same
BritishRacinGrin said:
Have. Ferrari found something of have Mercedes turned their engines down? Maybe the Ferrari likes the cold conditions?
I doubt anyone is pushing their engines given the requirement for long life.The drivers seem to be finding the limit on corners, at least going by the lock-ups (notably Button).
But there's no point it putting in really fast laps until they are required.
Ferrari need to show out given their sacking. I would not be surprised to find that Alonso was told to put in his best effort.
longblackcoat said:
We'll both agree he doesn't bring enough cash.
But Hulkenberg is in the same boat financially, and weighs 10kg too much - how come he's still around? Basically, PDR could perhaps have compensated for his lack of cash by being brilliant to work with, bringing good results, and operating faultlessly with the media. He didn't do any of that.
If you had the choice of drivers out there - including the young guys like Bottas, Magnussen et al - would you really have hired PDR for 2014? I know I wouldn't.
Hulk (maybe rightly) has been hyped, yet he's not still in a top seat is he ? Did Sauber actually pay him for last year ? he's basically back where he was a couple of years ago.But Hulkenberg is in the same boat financially, and weighs 10kg too much - how come he's still around? Basically, PDR could perhaps have compensated for his lack of cash by being brilliant to work with, bringing good results, and operating faultlessly with the media. He didn't do any of that.
If you had the choice of drivers out there - including the young guys like Bottas, Magnussen et al - would you really have hired PDR for 2014? I know I wouldn't.
No-one said PDR is perfect, but I'd take him at a couple of million quid over pastor and his money bag any day of the week. Williams figured out pretty quick they weren't going to get anywhere with him and worked out how to replace the cash, good for them.
PDR did make mistakes off track, but it was frustration more than being a prick, he just needed to channel it the right way.
Crafty_ said:
longblackcoat said:
We'll both agree he doesn't bring enough cash.
But Hulkenberg is in the same boat financially, and weighs 10kg too much - how come he's still around? Basically, PDR could perhaps have compensated for his lack of cash by being brilliant to work with, bringing good results, and operating faultlessly with the media. He didn't do any of that.
If you had the choice of drivers out there - including the young guys like Bottas, Magnussen et al - would you really have hired PDR for 2014? I know I wouldn't.
Hulk (maybe rightly) has been hyped, yet he's not still in a top seat is he ? Did Sauber actually pay him for last year ? he's basically back where he was a couple of years ago.But Hulkenberg is in the same boat financially, and weighs 10kg too much - how come he's still around? Basically, PDR could perhaps have compensated for his lack of cash by being brilliant to work with, bringing good results, and operating faultlessly with the media. He didn't do any of that.
If you had the choice of drivers out there - including the young guys like Bottas, Magnussen et al - would you really have hired PDR for 2014? I know I wouldn't.
No-one said PDR is perfect, but I'd take him at a couple of million quid over pastor and his money bag any day of the week. Williams figured out pretty quick they weren't going to get anywhere with him and worked out how to replace the cash, good for them.
PDR did make mistakes off track, but it was frustration more than being a prick, he just needed to channel it the right way.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=COFB7qARb-4
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