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wanacoop said:
Tony2or4 said:
vonuber said:
I fear this is another 2011 season.
In what sense?Flipatron said:
One again the BBC have managed to relay the result of the GP hours before 95% of the British public get to see the race.
Unless you subject yourself to a complete media blackout between the live and recorded race you're usually f
ked.
Oh no not this again.Unless you subject yourself to a complete media blackout between the live and recorded race you're usually f
ked.It was what? 4 hours?
Tidy the garden.
Wash the car.
Go shopping.
Go for a bike ride.
Play with the kids.
It's not hard to avoid sports or news media.
HTP99 said:
If I remember correctly when Massa had the call to let Bottas by there were only three laps left and there was no chance Bottas would have been caught and I think Williams admitted they made the wrong call, Alonso was well within Ricciardo's grasp; as seen by the .5 second gap come the chequered flag.
I thought Williams said the wrong wording had been used, and that had Bottas not passed whoever was in front then he would have been asked to drop back behind Massa again.vonuber said:
wanacoop said:
Wasn't 2011 too easy for RB? Along with 2013? Pole almost every race in 2011, to then go on and win tons of races, the other teams didn't stand a chance.
Yes, exactly so. Can't see anyone challenging the Merc's; it'll come down to who is the most consistent between Rosberg and Hamilton.Apart from the bad luck in Australia, Hamilton has had 3 perfect weekends, whereas Rosberg fluffed qualifying in China and spent the race playing catch up rather than battling for the win. While I hope Nico holds his nerve and challenges Lewis, I can see Hamilton 'doing a Vettel' this year and running away with the WDC. But then.. there's still plenty of time for him to split up with Nicole.. again..
Rich A said:
vonuber said:
wanacoop said:
Wasn't 2011 too easy for RB? Along with 2013? Pole almost every race in 2011, to then go on and win tons of races, the other teams didn't stand a chance.
Yes, exactly so. Can't see anyone challenging the Merc's; it'll come down to who is the most consistent between Rosberg and Hamilton.Apart from the bad luck in Australia, Hamilton has had 3 perfect weekends, whereas Rosberg fluffed qualifying in China and spent the race playing catch up rather than battling for the win. While I hope Nico holds his nerve and challenges Lewis, I can see Hamilton 'doing a Vettel' this year and running away with the WDC. But then.. there's still plenty of time for him to split up with Nicole.. again..
Edited by wanacoop on Tuesday 22 April 20:07
wanacoop said:
Na, it was too easy imo, boring. Although he didn't make many mistakes, which isn't easy, seb-RB team are great, but they had a HUGE advantage.
Could that HUGE advantage be that they were Seb and Red Bull ? ... 
I am absolutely delighted that Vettel 'appears' to be struggling this season even if we do not ignore his 'poor' qualifying form. What a bonus has been the promotion of Ricciardo to the top RB team. After all Vettel finished light years behind his team mate and no way was he saving his engine whilst maintaining his position and points score ... for the team. Considering they've plenty of those engines to last the whole season. Unlimited supply even.
There's a lot more to this stuff than ever is allowed to meet the eye folks. That is what makes it all the more fascinating for this observer. Still fifteen races to go ...
wanacoop said:
MGJohn said:
wanacoop said:
Na, it was too easy imo, boring. Although he didn't make many mistakes, which isn't easy, seb-RB team are great, but they had a HUGE advantage.
Could that HUGE advantage be that they were Seb and Red Bull ? RealSquirrels said:
i am struggling to decipher what you're on about but are you suggesting that vettel is being beaten by ricciardo because he's looking after his engine? for the whole race? in every race?
Good grief! You can suggest that. Struggle away but, this verbal description might help but possibly not without pictures ... Read this very carefully because I will write it only once... unlike some who like to duplicate their posts...
When the thinking driver has assessed the situation that he cannot improve his position for whatever reason, why try thrashing the precious engine on a lost cause? Drop back whilst maintaining that same position and conserve ~ check ~ whilst keeping ahead and containing any threats from those behind.
All clear now ... ? If not, struggle on.
MGJohn said:
Good grief! You can suggest that. Struggle away but, this verbal description might help but possibly not without pictures ...
Read this very carefully because I will write it only once... unlike some who like to duplicate their posts...
When the thinking driver has assessed the situation that he cannot improve his position for whatever reason, why try thrashing the precious engine on a lost cause? Drop back whilst maintaining that same position and conserve ~ check ~ whilst keeping ahead and containing any threats from those behind.
All clear now ... ? If not, struggle on.
As clear as mud! The struggle continues...Read this very carefully because I will write it only once... unlike some who like to duplicate their posts...
When the thinking driver has assessed the situation that he cannot improve his position for whatever reason, why try thrashing the precious engine on a lost cause? Drop back whilst maintaining that same position and conserve ~ check ~ whilst keeping ahead and containing any threats from those behind.
All clear now ... ? If not, struggle on.
MGJohn said:
RealSquirrels said:
i am struggling to decipher what you're on about but are you suggesting that vettel is being beaten by ricciardo because he's looking after his engine? for the whole race? in every race?
Good grief! You can suggest that. Struggle away but, this verbal description might help but possibly not without pictures ... Read this very carefully because I will write it only once... unlike some who like to duplicate their posts...
When the thinking driver has assessed the situation that he cannot improve his position for whatever reason, why try thrashing the precious engine on a lost cause? Drop back whilst maintaining that same position and conserve ~ check ~ whilst keeping ahead and containing any threats from those behind.
All clear now ... ? If not, struggle on.
tertius said:
MGJohn said:
RealSquirrels said:
i am struggling to decipher what you're on about but are you suggesting that vettel is being beaten by ricciardo because he's looking after his engine? for the whole race? in every race?
Good grief! You can suggest that. Struggle away but, this verbal description might help but possibly not without pictures ... Read this very carefully because I will write it only once... unlike some who like to duplicate their posts...
When the thinking driver has assessed the situation that he cannot improve his position for whatever reason, why try thrashing the precious engine on a lost cause? Drop back whilst maintaining that same position and conserve ~ check ~ whilst keeping ahead and containing any threats from those behind.
All clear now ... ? If not, struggle on.
Rarely are we ever in possession of all the facts which matter. Some are never made available for wider public access. So then some will be able say ~ See we was right after all so yah boo sucks to you lot and other expletives in typical average PHer effing and blinding style..
There again Vettel may be the lesser driver package after all ... we shall see .....
MGJohn said:
Good grief! You can suggest that. Struggle away but, this verbal description might help but possibly not without pictures ...
Read this very carefully because I will write it only once... unlike some who like to duplicate their posts...
When the thinking driver has assessed the situation that he cannot improve his position for whatever reason, why try thrashing the precious engine on a lost cause? Drop back whilst maintaining that same position and conserve ~ check ~ whilst keeping ahead and containing any threats from those behind.
All clear now ... ? If not, struggle on.
Is this some new Vettel? It can't be the same one as last season and the season before when, comfortably in the lead, he would push towards the end of the race and put in the fastest lap despite the protestations of his manager, suggesting that, literally, it was pointless and could damage the engine.Read this very carefully because I will write it only once... unlike some who like to duplicate their posts...
When the thinking driver has assessed the situation that he cannot improve his position for whatever reason, why try thrashing the precious engine on a lost cause? Drop back whilst maintaining that same position and conserve ~ check ~ whilst keeping ahead and containing any threats from those behind.
All clear now ... ? If not, struggle on.
I'm struggling to equate Vettel of old with this new thinking one you describe.
Perhaps it's the 5 engines each this year and the newness, unknown reliability of the new powerplants or drivetrains or whatever they're calling them?
Pastor said 'We're two engines down'? I wasn't sure if that was him personally or the Renault Lotus team.
Perhaps it's a case of unknown quantity in terms of the new powerplants and reliability and having a new team mate who seems to be doing a 2007 Lewis Hamilton on him?
That and sand bagging for the season and goal hanging for the double points race at the end of the season?
Pastor said 'We're two engines down'? I wasn't sure if that was him personally or the Renault Lotus team.
Perhaps it's a case of unknown quantity in terms of the new powerplants and reliability and having a new team mate who seems to be doing a 2007 Lewis Hamilton on him?
That and sand bagging for the season and goal hanging for the double points race at the end of the season?
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