Maldonado. Not of this planet..

Maldonado. Not of this planet..

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RGambo

849 posts

170 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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thiscocks said:
Jasandjules said:
Uh, do you know anything about his history in lower formulae? I am going with a Nope given the above.
Admit I dont know much about his lower formula performances other than he won many races and the GP2 title, was pretty good at Monaco and had some crashes (who doesnt?). In my view its better to be fast and a bit ragged and get to F1 with good results rather than be extremley mediocre (Senna jr, Sutil) and ponce about doing nothing. He didnt crash that often last year, and this year he is driving a dodgey car and his team mate is one of the quickest out there driving at his best.

I just think all this critisism is pretty harsh considering he has just made a couple of mistakes in practice / qualy out of 5 races. I can only imagine how mental the internet forums would have gone if they were around when DeCesaris was binning it early-mid 80's.
The list of his cock ups goes back to previous years in F1 and lower formula. This year he has looked totally out of his depth, driving off the road in China whilst playing with his wheel controls, exiting the pits and driving into the side of the Sauber, at Barcelona it looked fairly obvious that he was running out of road, but he still kept his foot in. we could mention his 're-joining' of the track in Velencia into the side of Hamilton the list goes on.
My main critisim of him is as I said, he really doesn't see he's doing anything wrong so He doesn't learn or improve. Yes he can be quick, but there's more to F1 than being quick. As for driving a dodgey car, it was fast enough for 5th on the grid and raced to 8th by groejean, there are many other cars out there at the moment that are very tricky to drive, talk to Kimi about brakes that don't do what he wants. The caterham looks a right handfull, so to the Sauber. These drivers are all having trouble, but not as much a Maldanodo and they useusally avoid other drivers.
I'll be the first to admit, he's a better driver than most club drivers in the UK, but as with most things there reaches a point where you run out of talent, the current F1 cars require more talent to drive and race than he poseses.IMO.

thiscocks

3,128 posts

196 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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RGambo said:
The list of his cock ups goes back to previous years in F1 and lower formula. This year he has looked totally out of his depth, driving off the road in China whilst playing with his wheel controls, exiting the pits and driving into the side of the Sauber, at Barcelona it looked fairly obvious that he was running out of road, but he still kept his foot in. we could mention his 're-joining' of the track in Velencia into the side of Hamilton the list goes on.
My main critisim of him is as I said, he really doesn't see he's doing anything wrong so He doesn't learn or improve. Yes he can be quick, but there's more to F1 than being quick. As for driving a dodgey car, it was fast enough for 5th on the grid and raced to 8th by groejean, there are many other cars out there at the moment that are very tricky to drive, talk to Kimi about brakes that don't do what he wants. The caterham looks a right handfull, so to the Sauber. These drivers are all having trouble, but not as much a Maldanodo and they useusally avoid other drivers.
I'll be the first to admit, he's a better driver than most club drivers in the UK, but as with most things there reaches a point where you run out of talent, the current F1 cars require more talent to drive and race than he poseses.IMO.
Fair play, I agree though if he does nothing this year in comparison to Grosjean then it wont look great and he would probably just deserve a drive next year in a smaller team. Similar career path to Petrov probably!

Jasandjules

69,920 posts

230 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIf-dHbKpFI

Some of these are just WTF? How did he manage that?

hairyben

8,516 posts

184 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Jasandjules said:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIf-dHbKpFI

Some of these are just WTF? How did he manage that?
I'm all like WTF? how did they manage only 1:33 of footage?

Jasandjules

69,920 posts

230 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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hairyben said:
I'm all like WTF? how did they manage only 1:33 of footage?
I am sure there is far, far more footage out there. This was just the first one that came up !

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

263 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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I really don't like seeing this. Perhaps he should just go quietly and spend the Williams slush fund curing diseases instead.

I don't know...

Vaud

50,550 posts

156 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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hairyben said:
I'm all like WTF? how did they manage only 1:33 of footage?
Part 1 of 120

toppstuff

13,698 posts

248 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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thiscocks said:
Jasandjules said:
Uh, do you know anything about his history in lower formulae? I am going with a Nope given the above.
Admit I dont know much about his lower formula performances
Look into him a little more. He is a nutter. He has taken out other drivers deliberately on several occasions. He has shown a genuinely nasty, pretty dangerous side to him at times. Williams are very happy to get shot of him.

Many people will do a little dance when he leaves F1.

Hub

6,437 posts

199 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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He continues to be an embarrassing berk this season. How many spare parts does Maldonado's money buy you anyway?

Lincsblokey

3,175 posts

156 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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thegreenhell said:
'To find out if the new offer had been accepted, Sniff Petrol attempted to speak to Pastor Maldonado via Skype but he had somehow managed to crash his computer.'

rofl

MartG

20,683 posts

205 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Hub said:
He continues to be an embarrassing berk this season. How many spare parts does Maldonado's money buy you anyway?
There is a theory that Eric Bouiller signed him for Lotus prior to his departure to McLaren as revenge for not being paid wink

Vaud

50,550 posts

156 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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I think he is a jekyll and hyde character.

On his day he is very, very quick - when everything is right. I really rate him for that. He is not a pay driver in the sense that only money has bought him his seat. He is a genuinely fast racer.

But when he gets into some situations his fight vs flight gets extreme and he will not just fight - but retaliate, and that I cannot support.

FourWheelDrift

88,542 posts

285 months

Tuesday 13th May 2014
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Completely misses his pit box, Malaysia 2012 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=34l0WfYr6yM

LordGrover

33,545 posts

213 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Plenty more: click.

the other me

613 posts

154 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Fastest today in testing. . . . . . WTF ?

Vaud

50,550 posts

156 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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the other me said:
Fastest today in testing. . . . . . WTF ?
Testing isn't done under parc ferme rules. Could be a dev engine, just qualifying practice, etc, any number of reasons.

FourWheelDrift

88,542 posts

285 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Chilton fastest yesterday, Maldonado fastest today, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together... mass hysteria! It's the End of the World.

entropy

5,443 posts

204 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Like Chilton, Maldonado set his quickest lap on supersofts.

Rosberg was next quickest - a second slower but on mediums.