Maldonado. Not of this planet..
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One of the things that F1 drivers (the good ones) are famous for is that they rarely make the same mistake twice. Pastor seems to be able to make the same mistake and have the same crash many times over. It's almost like he's driving over his limit constantly just to keep the car pointing in a straight line. If it does anything unexpected (which the Lotus does a lot this year) then he can't cope and normally wipes off a corner or two.
It seems like he will have an accident at any point and if you don't watch out, he'll take you out too. I hope he's paying a lot for his ride this year, they'll be spending a ton of cash on carbon fibre.
If it was me driving on the same track as him, I'd be trying to get his super-license taken off him. Unfortunately money talks in F1 more than anything else and his crashes probably generate more publicity than an 8th place would... Hmmmm, maybe that's why he's employed, because you're guaranteed at least one decent shot of the car each weekend, as it slides down the wall and removes a wheel or two. Cynical, moi?
It seems like he will have an accident at any point and if you don't watch out, he'll take you out too. I hope he's paying a lot for his ride this year, they'll be spending a ton of cash on carbon fibre.
If it was me driving on the same track as him, I'd be trying to get his super-license taken off him. Unfortunately money talks in F1 more than anything else and his crashes probably generate more publicity than an 8th place would... Hmmmm, maybe that's why he's employed, because you're guaranteed at least one decent shot of the car each weekend, as it slides down the wall and removes a wheel or two. Cynical, moi?
Crafty_ said:
Lewis dropped it because he was flat out, as a rookie with tyres down to the canvas because the geniuses on the McLaren prat perch left him out. Slightly different circumstances methinks.
Apart from the bad attitude the problem with Pastor is he bins it every weekend, mainly through ineptitude. Yes the car is ste but simply not turning the steering wheel enough and crashing as a result is a bit of a joke to be honest.
I love Lewis fans.Apart from the bad attitude the problem with Pastor is he bins it every weekend, mainly through ineptitude. Yes the car is ste but simply not turning the steering wheel enough and crashing as a result is a bit of a joke to be honest.
He bins it? other person's fault.
His attitude? impeccable.
Jasandjules said:
Here are a few. Several I am unclear how it is even possible to crash as he did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIf-dHbKpFI
@1:23 - he's a VERY lucky boy he didn't kill/mame someone on that one.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIf-dHbKpFI
Vaud said:
No it doesn't. He has talent. He beat Alonso in a straight race, IIRC.
He might be ragged, but he can be quick. This years car is a dog, neither he nor Gosjean suddenly forgot how to drive.
He is along way back in my list of preferred F1 drivers, but say it makes a mockery is a little too far. He is at least quick on his day. More complex than just being a "pay driver"
I'd agree he does have a talent and has shown to be quick. His talent appears to be the ability to keep his foot in where others would back off. When it works he's quick but it doesn't seem to work very often.He might be ragged, but he can be quick. This years car is a dog, neither he nor Gosjean suddenly forgot how to drive.
He is along way back in my list of preferred F1 drivers, but say it makes a mockery is a little too far. He is at least quick on his day. More complex than just being a "pay driver"
I'm not sure then whether it's a talent or a failing but I lean towards failing.
Agent Orange said:
I'd agree he does have a talent and has shown to be quick. His talent appears to be the ability to keep his foot in where others would back off. When it works he's quick but it doesn't seem to work very often.
I'm not sure then whether it's a talent or a failing but I lean towards failing.
As far as I am concerned the guy is toxic. He should never have had an F1 seat. The sooner he gets rejected and thrown out of the show, the better.I'm not sure then whether it's a talent or a failing but I lean towards failing.
There's a degree of similarity between Maldonado and Andrea de Cesaris.
de Cesaris became known as de Crasheris and retained his position in F1 for so many years due to the money he was able to bring (via a family connection to Marlborough).
The main difference is that de Cesaris was actually a lot better than he often appeared.
de Cesaris became known as de Crasheris and retained his position in F1 for so many years due to the money he was able to bring (via a family connection to Marlborough).
The main difference is that de Cesaris was actually a lot better than he often appeared.
toppstuff said:
As far as I am concerned the guy is toxic. He should never have had an F1 seat. The sooner he gets rejected and thrown out of the show, the better.
I wouldn't disagree with you at all - his history and they way he appears to have dealt with certain incidents in his racing life don't suggest a particularly pleasant person. However sport is full of ugly personalities.I just don't agree that he can be dismissed as completely talentless. No matter how much I despise the man I do have to, reluctantly, concede he does have a bit of talent.
StevieBee said:
There's a degree of similarity between Maldonado and Andrea de Cesaris.
de Cesaris became known as de Crasheris and retained his position in F1 for so many years due to the money he was able to bring (via a family connection to Marlborough).
The main difference is that de Cesaris was actually a lot better than he often appeared.
Never knew he was from Wiltshire.de Cesaris became known as de Crasheris and retained his position in F1 for so many years due to the money he was able to bring (via a family connection to Marlborough).
The main difference is that de Cesaris was actually a lot better than he often appeared.
John D. said:
StevieBee said:
There's a degree of similarity between Maldonado and Andrea de Cesaris.
de Cesaris became known as de Crasheris and retained his position in F1 for so many years due to the money he was able to bring (via a family connection to Marlborough).
The main difference is that de Cesaris was actually a lot better than he often appeared.
Never knew he was from Wiltshire.de Cesaris became known as de Crasheris and retained his position in F1 for so many years due to the money he was able to bring (via a family connection to Marlborough).
The main difference is that de Cesaris was actually a lot better than he often appeared.
All from wikipedia
Note pastor was classified at Silverstone as he completed 90% race distance but he actually retired with a broken exhaust.
just for fun, qualifying:
+ Pastor qualified 15th but was excluded as he didn't have enough fuel in the car to return to the pits.
Driver | AUS | MAL | BHR | CHN | ESP | MON | CAN | AUT | GBR | GER | HUN | BEL | ITA | SIN |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Romain Grosjean | Power Unit | 11 | 12 | Gearbox | 8 | 8 | Rear Wing | 14 | 12 | Water Leak | Spun Off | Power Unit | 16 | 13 |
Pastor Maldonado | Power Unit | Power Unit | 14 | 14 | 15 | Gearbox | Power Unit | 12 | 17 | 12 | 13 | Exhaust | 14 | 12 |
Note pastor was classified at Silverstone as he completed 90% race distance but he actually retired with a broken exhaust.
just for fun, qualifying:
Driver | AUS | MAL | BHR | CHN | ESP | MON | CAN | AUT | GBR | GER | HUN | BEL | ITA | SIN |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Romain Grosjean | 21 | 16 | 16 | 10 | 5 | 14 | 14 | 16 | 11 | 15 | 15 | 15 | 18 | 16 |
Pastor Maldonado | No time | 17 | 17 | No time | No time | 15 | 17 | 14 | 15+ | 19 | No time | 17 | 17 | 18 |
+ Pastor qualified 15th but was excluded as he didn't have enough fuel in the car to return to the pits.
Edited by Crafty_ on Wednesday 24th September 18:31
A clip to finish off the year
http://wtf1.co.uk/maldonado-fire-abu-dhabi/
http://wtf1.co.uk/maldonado-fire-abu-dhabi/
Edited by ajprice on Tuesday 25th November 11:53
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