Maldonado. Not of this planet..

[ajprice]

Pastor's manager said:

'with all due respect', he would not be considering the British team. (Manor)

"I don't see any concrete opportunity for Formula One this year. We will try to bounce back in 2017”

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/226405/1/manor-not-re...

2017 comeback? He's a glass half full sort of guy isn't he?

[HustleRussell]

Manor might be the best place for Maldonado, they need money and air time (a crash-prone race winning driver ought to do), Maldonado needs a car which is better than the 2015 Lotus, which the 2016 Mercedes powered Manor may not be a billion miles from achieving...

[FourWheelDrift]

HustleRussell said:

Manor might be the best place for Maldonado, they need money and air time (a crash-prone race winning driver ought to do), Maldonado needs a car which is better than the 2015 Lotus, which the 2016 Mercedes powered Manor may not be a billion miles from achieving...

Pastor Maldonado or Rio Haryanto...............wow, the choice, the crasher or the basher.

[BarbaricAvatar]

HustleRussell said:

Manor might be the best place for Maldonado, they need money and air time (a crash-prone race winning driver ought to do), Maldonado needs a car which is better than the 2015 Lotus, which the 2016 Mercedes powered Manor may not be a billion miles from achieving...

Except, now Pastor hasn't got any money; this is the whole reason he was dropped. Haryanto comes with a similar deal to what Maldonado got in with; a country's government footing the bills (Indonesia in Rio's case). His drive will last as long as the politician who agreed it does.
Manor need pay not promises, Maldonado's out of F1 for good.

[HustleRussell]

BarbaricAvatar said:

Except, now Pastor hasn't got any money; this is the whole reason he was dropped. Haryanto comes with a similar deal to what Maldonado got in with; a country's government footing the bills (Indonesia in Rio's case). His drive will last as long as the politician who agreed it does.
Manor need pay not promises, Maldonado's out of F1 for good.

If oil prices stay as they are or fall further I agree. A significant number of speculators are expecting a significant rebound soon though.

[toppstuff]

BarbaricAvatar said:

Maldonado's out of F1 for good.

Good. He should never have been in F1 because of his behaviour in Monaco. There is a malevolent streak in him, something inside that, when the red mist descends, can just tip into a dark aggression. He has hurt people because of it. He wont be missed.

[Jasandjules]

toppstuff said:

Good. He should never have been in F1 because of his behaviour in Monaco. There is a malevolent streak in him, something inside that, when the red mist descends, can just tip into a dark aggression. He has hurt people because of it. He wont be missed.

Monaco? No, you want to look a little further into the past to see why he should never have been given an F1 license.

[patmahe]

ajprice said:

Pastor's manager said:

'with all due respect', he would not be considering the British team. (Manor)

"I don't see any concrete opportunity for Formula One this year. We will try to bounce back in 2017”

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/226405/1/manor-not-re...

2017 comeback? He's a glass half full sort of guy isn't he?

I know if I was trying to salvage my F1 career I'd jump at the chance to do a season at Manor, especially with the package that they will have this season. They may still be towards the back of the grid but at least they are on it and likely to be closer to the rest of the field than ever before.

Reading between the lines, I think this statement means, 'we have spoken to Manor and know we cannot meet their financial requirements for a seat due to no money coming from PDVSA so have decided to try to save face by pretending we consider that team to be beneath us'

[groomi]

patmahe said:

ajprice said:

Pastor's manager said:

'with all due respect', he would not be considering the British team. (Manor)

"I don't see any concrete opportunity for Formula One this year. We will try to bounce back in 2017”

http://www.crash.net/f1/news/226405/1/manor-not-re...

2017 comeback? He's a glass half full sort of guy isn't he?

I know if I was trying to salvage my F1 career I'd jump at the chance to do a season at Manor, especially with the package that they will have this season. They may still be towards the back of the grid but at least they are on it and likely to be closer to the rest of the field than ever before.

Reading between the lines, I think this statement means, 'we have spoken to Manor and know we cannot meet their financial requirements for a seat due to no money coming from PDVSA so have decided to try to save face by pretending we consider that team to be beneath us'

Reading between the lines... it's on Crash.net and therefore bereft of any facts, insider knowledge or tip-offs.

[budgie smuggler]

Jasandjules said:

Monaco? No, you want to look a little further into the past to see why he should never have been given an F1 license.

Save me digging through Wikipedia, what happened?

[Piginapoke]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/4578667...

[budgie smuggler]

Piginapoke said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/4578667...

Thanks, that's the Monaco one though isn't it? JasAndJules said something happened before that.

[FourWheelDrift]

budgie smuggler said:

Piginapoke said:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/motorsport/4578667...

Thanks, that's the Monaco one though isn't it? JasAndJules said something happened before that.

Was it not slowing down for the red flag at Zolder? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5nt7IdyPs

there have been so many.

[budgie smuggler]

FourWheelDrift said:

Was it not slowing down for the red flag at Zolder? - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt5nt7IdyPs

there have been so many.

Yes there have, although according to this commenter, not that particular one:

youtube said:

sunshinebaby2958 months ago
This crash happened at Zolder in 2005 and the driver in the blue car is definitely not Pastor Maldonado (who, as you can easily check on google, was driving a yellow car in World Series by Renault).
The driver crashing is Stefano Proetto. Check "stefano proetto zolder crash" on google.

[lbc]

Vaud said:

I don't get all of the negativity personally. Some cheap jokes... (And expensive crashes)

On the upside, without his money there would have been a lot of jobs lost in Enstone and the team might not be there now to be saved...

Are you serious?

There are loads of people in the world with access to £30 million that Maldo Crasho brings with him.

Someone else will always be there to step in to an F1 seat.

[anonymous-user]

lbc said:

Vaud said:

I don't get all of the negativity personally. Some cheap jokes... (And expensive crashes)

On the upside, without his money there would have been a lot of jobs lost in Enstone and the team might not be there now to be saved...

Are you serious?

There are loads of people in the world with access to £30 million that Maldo Crasho brings with him.

Someone else will always be there to step in to an F1 seat.

Exactly. They could have had Chilton in there. Wouldn't have done any good but would have caused less damage.

[BarbaricAvatar]

REALIST123 said:

lbc said:

Vaud said:

I don't get all of the negativity personally. Some cheap jokes... (And expensive crashes)

On the upside, without his money there would have been a lot of jobs lost in Enstone and the team might not be there now to be saved...

Are you serious?

There are loads of people in the world with access to £30 million that Maldo Crasho brings with him.

Someone else will always be there to step in to an F1 seat.

Exactly. They could have had Chilton in there. Wouldn't have done any good but would have caused less damage.

I'm properly surprised that Chilton's scored podiums and won a race in the Indy Lights since leaving; in my opinion he's the least talented F1 driver of the past 10 years. At least Maldonado occassionally did something promising that showed there might actually be a racing driver hidden deep underneath the crust, trying to get out.

[thegreenhell]

BarbaricAvatar said:

I'm properly surprised that Chilton's scored podiums and won a race in the Indy Lights since leaving; in my opinion he's the least talented F1 driver of the past 10 years. At least Maldonado occassionally did something promising that showed there might actually be a racing driver hidden deep underneath the crust, trying to get out.

You must have been equally surprised that he had poles, wins and podiums in both British F3 and in GP2 on his way to F1.

[BarbaricAvatar]

thegreenhell said:

BarbaricAvatar said:

I'm properly surprised that Chilton's scored podiums and won a race in the Indy Lights since leaving; in my opinion he's the least talented F1 driver of the past 10 years. At least Maldonado occassionally did something promising that showed there might actually be a racing driver hidden deep underneath the crust, trying to get out.

You must have been equally surprised that he had poles, wins and podiums in both British F3 and in GP2 on his way to F1.

Indeed. Maybe daddy's money was mostly spent by the time he reached F1 so he couldn't offer enough to get into a better team.

[Europa1]

REALIST123 said:

Exactly. They could have had Chilton in there. Wouldn't have done any good but would have caused less damage.

Could they have had him? I thought PDVSA paid £35m a year to Lotus, and that Chilton brought nothing like that much to Manor Marussia.