Hamilton must start making more of own calls

Hamilton must start making more of own calls

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KaraK

13,187 posts

210 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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toppstuff said:
I think the idea of the OP, that somehow the driver gets to call the shots, disappeared in F1 a while back.

Telemetry changed everything. Each team has a control centre monitoring every aspect of the car. They know more about the car than the driver ever can.

The only way to put the driver back in control over strategy is to ban all of this complex telemetry.
I don't think the driver's role in calling the shots has completely disappeared - there are certain things that the telemetry doesn't tell, or at least not in it's entirety. Changeable conditions is a good one as the driver is the one who is actually out in the thick of it and some drivers can really read where the limit is better than others and as such are the best placed to make the call regarding what tires they should be on - Jenson is probably the prime example of this in the current field but it was also IMHO a great strength of Schumacher.

I might be in the minority here but I actually find the additional complexity to the strategy that comes with the sort of detail they currently have available is fascinating. I'd love to have the full transcripts of the radio conversations available during the race (although I understand why this is impractical for a host of reasons).

Dunit

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637 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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One thing i have been reminded of ,Was Lewis overulling how much front wing adjustment they wanted to put in the other week .
Also no one has replied about what would have happened if he had stayed out instead of making that last stop that in the end bought about his Retirement.

For sure the tyres would have lasted easily to the end and with Nico out of the way running in clean air the brakes would have cooled down.

I do not think Nico would have pulled back 23secs on him.

Crafty_

13,297 posts

201 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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Dunit said:
One thing i have been reminded of ,Was Lewis overulling how much front wing adjustment they wanted to put in the other week .
Also no one has replied about what would have happened if he had stayed out instead of making that last stop that in the end bought about his Retirement.

For sure the tyres would have lasted easily to the end and with Nico out of the way running in clean air the brakes would have cooled down.

I do not think Nico would have pulled back 23secs on him.
Given that Nico was later doing low to mid 1:19s, assuming Lewis didn't stop again his tyres would have been utterly knackered I think Nico would have caught him. If he had stopped later on he would have been no better off.


andyps

7,817 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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mistakenplane said:
stephen300o said:
Hamilton is probably the fastest over one lap, but there is more to it than that, and it is too later for him to change I feel.
I do think he lacks the mental fortitude and calculation of someone like Alonso, who can plan out a race around the quality of car, whereas Hamilton can beat anyone on sheer speed when its all good.
I think he did a pretty good job of pacing the race (with the help of the team) in Brazil in 2008. And has done in other races since, but that is the obvious one where it happened.

Dunit

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637 posts

206 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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Crafty_ said:
Given that Nico was later doing low to mid 1:19s, assuming Lewis didn't stop again his tyres would have been utterly knackered I think Nico would have caught him. If he had stopped later on he would have been no better off.
In com Ben said that there was very low deg on the soft, Pirreli said you could have driven to the states on them, Plus they were running well of the pace, but what had he to lose?
If Nico did start to make big in roads in to his lead so be it ,He still would have got some points.

andyps

7,817 posts

283 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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If - as has often been said, F1 is just if backwards.

entropy

5,449 posts

204 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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Data is a valuable arsenal but is it the be all and end all?

About halfway down of this article: http://www.motorsportmagazine.com/f1/35371/ Mark Hughes makes a good point how teams have become slaves to technology.

Or how many times in the past have we seen arrogance in teams treating Q1 based on assumptions on weather forecasting whereas common says otherwise?

zac510

5,546 posts

207 months

Wednesday 11th June 2014
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That seems quite a generalisation really. I think there's plenty of evidence to suggest that the driver's preferences are often honoured, for example how we hear about front wing settings or particular car setups being different between the two drivers of a team.

Dunit

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637 posts

206 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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I am glad Lewis stood to his guns yesterday, Not only in refusing to yield to Nico,But also overruling the pitcall on lap 36 and staying out for another 2 Laps before coming in for his last set of tyres.
In either case he would have lost ground to nico in the championship.
Mercedes are very lucky that Lewis has not got nuance that the likes of Ayrton,Alain had and Alonso has , For those guys would be making very clear by use of the world media who they companies preference is to be WC in no uncertain terms!