More FIA Dice Rolling-FRIC Suspension to be Banned
Discussion
PhillipM said:
If they're going by it being mainly aero helping, they should ban 3rd dampers too.
if you follow that line of thought, you might just as well ban suspension (and go back to go-karts)historically, how is all this any different from when they banned the twin chassis Lotus 88)
Likes Fast Cars said:
The bottom line is it's more bul
it from the FIA, with "rulings made on the fly" in an attempt to level the playing field.
Are you saying the FIA is a system for dynamically levelling the front and rear of the playing field? They should be banned.it from the FIA, with "rulings made on the fly" in an attempt to level the playing field.Furthermore, does FRIC suspension not do front/rear what anti-roll bars do left/right?
TheInternet said:
Likes Fast Cars said:
The bottom line is it's more bulit from the FIA, with "rulings made on the fly" in an attempt to level the playing field.
Are you saying the FIA is a system for dynamically levelling the front and rear of the playing field? They should be banned.it from the FIA, with "rulings made on the fly" in an attempt to level the playing field.Furthermore, does FRIC suspension not do front/rear what anti-roll bars do left/right?
In answer to your second question, yes, so ARBs should be banned too.....
zac510 said:
Did you even read the Autosport article quoted above by Gaz? In there a team's technical director says they only use it for stabilising the aero platform. but that's not to say that's how all of the teams use it - we only know about one team.
That is rational grounds for banning it.
It's the ridiculous extent to which the FIA goes in "interpreting" things. If we go right back to fundamentals of what constitutes an aero device then I cannot see how this is a (primary) aero device.That is rational grounds for banning it.
There will always be a lot of agreement and disagreement on these things, at least it gives us all something to debate and think about between races.
But just to repeat what I think causes the most irritation for most of us, and that is the way the FIA just come up with bans on one thing or another over the years when any team (as long as it's not Ferrari, or in recent years RB) have an advantage over the rest of the field.
Gaz. said:
Nobody has protested them because they don't work. They've tried various combinations of those fairings in the in season tests so even they are doubting the idea too. Not once has anyone this year complimented the performance of the MP4-29.
I dunno, I think Ferrari believe it's doing a pretty good job. tenpenceshort said:
I dunno, I think Ferrari believe it's doing a pretty good job.
Mclaren have stated they'll now remove it. Why?!? If no law tells you to (yet) why give away a performance advantage?I presume this clarifies that Mclaren have had a moan to the FIA as their system doesn't work.
_Batty_ said:
tenpenceshort said:
I dunno, I think Ferrari believe it's doing a pretty good job.
Mclaren have stated they'll now remove it. Why?!? If no law tells you to (yet) why give away a performance advantage?I presume this clarifies that Mclaren have had a moan to the FIA as their system doesn't work.
rpgk said:
So has FRIC actually been banned yet? When was or is the ruling/announcement?
no.all that happened is that Charlie has suggested it (could) contravenes the movable aero rule
this then opens the door to an easy protest at the next race...
question is, who would be stupid enough to protest? and who would be their target especially now that Merc have chosen not to run it...
Scuffers said:
no.
all that happened is that Charlie has suggested it (could) contravenes the movable aero rule
this then opens the door to an easy protest at the next race...
question is, who would be stupid enough to protest? and who would be their target especially now that Merc have chosen not to run it...
Ok thank you for clarifying - reading thread it sounds like it is a foregone conclusion (which maybe it is) - lets hope common sense prevails... all that happened is that Charlie has suggested it (could) contravenes the movable aero rule
this then opens the door to an easy protest at the next race...
question is, who would be stupid enough to protest? and who would be their target especially now that Merc have chosen not to run it...
Scuffers said:
no.
all that happened is that Charlie has suggested it (could) contravenes the movable aero rule
this then opens the door to an easy protest at the next race...
question is, who would be stupid enough to protest? and who would be their target especially now that Merc have chosen not to run it...
Does this now mean that Merc will lose some of their performance advantage? all that happened is that Charlie has suggested it (could) contravenes the movable aero rule
this then opens the door to an easy protest at the next race...
question is, who would be stupid enough to protest? and who would be their target especially now that Merc have chosen not to run it...
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